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Honda Accord Hybrid MPG-Real World Numbers

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Re: Irreconcilable differences! [westside] by midnightcowboy
Jan 31, 2006 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: westside (Jan 31, 2006 7:36 am)

Westside,
 
Thanks for the answers drafting would make sense to get extremely high mileage. It works in pelotons of bicycles and flocks of Geese.
 
But think about it in a car. If you draft close enoguh to a semi tractor-trailor to gain real benefit, the you are putting yourself in a extremely dangerous situation. What if the semi driver doesn't know you are behind and has to emegency brake and you smash into the front and in spite of your SRS, you kill yourself. Then you can than discuss with St. Peter if you extreme hgih mileage was worth it.
 
Let say again so that it is perfectly clear. Drafting close behind other vehicles is extremely stupid and extremely dangerous. The jeopardy you put you life and the life of other vehicle occupants is just not worth the mileage gain.
 
Cruis'n,
 
MidCow
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Re: Irreconcilable differences! [westside] by xcel
Feb 01, 2006 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: westside (Jan 31, 2006 7:36 am)

Hi WestSide:
 
      Your best FE comes from in town/suburban area driving and there is no chance for a D-FAS to help under those driving scenarios. Just another piece of info MidCow has no idea about. A D-FAS can extend glide distances but 18-wheelers are rarely traveling at the right speed or when you are in the proper position to use this technique to its fullest. I see this opportunity present itself about once every 40 - 50 miles or so …You might want to look up who coined the term for good measure
 
      Good Luck
 
      Wayne R. Gerdes
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Re: Irreconcilable differences! [mes1] by hpowders
Feb 04, 2006 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: mes1 (Jan 29, 2006 1:32 pm)

Wow! I drive a BMW 545 with a big gas-guzzling V8, seriously looking at the 2006 HAH.
I get 18mpg city, 27mpg highway and average 21-22mpg combined.
 
There is definitely a problem with your vehicle. Your mpg numbers are way out of whack with reality, and I would complain up the chain starting with the Honda regional manager for your area.
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Re: MPG [s2khah] by clevi
Feb 05, 2006 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: s2khah (Jan 10, 2006 7:53 pm)

Unfortuantely a block heater is not a solution. You will spend much more moeny on the electricity to hyeat the block than you will save on gas. Also you are talking about $200 for the heater and instalation. You can get nearly 90 gal of gas for that.
My advice is to keep up the preasure on Honda to come up with a fix. If your state has a lemon law you might look into the possibilty of getting the excess you paid for the hybrid version of the accord refunded. If enough owers start complaining, Honda will have to do something.
I am only getting 24MPG in 90%suburban, 10% highway driving and the tempertures have been mild lately. One of the problems I see is absence of regeneration during warm up and intermittantly after the green ECO light comes on. This looks like a flaw int the computoer programming.
I hope to see more posts on this subject.
Cliff
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Re: Irreconcilable differences! [mes1] by ell2
Feb 20, 2006 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: mes1 (Jan 29, 2006 1:32 pm)

I have the same issue.
I just got, two months ago,a new 2005 HAH and I have consistentantly been getting 22mpg. Honda takes no responsibility and neither does the dealer.
What re really need is a hungry lawyer to start a class action to get results.
I never would have bought this car to get 22 mpg.
Please let me know if you hear about anyone getting any kind of satisfaction.
Thanks.
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Re: Irreconcilable differences! [mes1] by larsb
Feb 20, 2006 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: mes1 (Jan 29, 2006 1:32 pm)

Sorry to hear you are not getting EPA "estimates" for your HAH.
 
But it is not Hondas fault.
 
The EPA sets the "window sticker estimate" and those are the results the EPA got when they tested the car.
 
No one can be sued for it except the EPA, and you could not win if they put one owner up on the stand who gets EPA mpg.
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Re: Irreconcilable differences! [ell2] by clevi
Feb 21, 2006 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: ell2 (Feb 20, 2006 9:03 am)

There are lots of lawyers out there. Just type in "Lemon Law" into your search engine. Wether these guys are interested in class action suits I do not know but they claim to be able to get you compensation if your state has a lemon law. Honda may only be quoting EPA ratings but they splash them around in their ads and that to me means that they endorse them. Keep posting here and on other forums and see if you can get something started.
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Re: Irreconcilable differences! [clevi] by larsb
Feb 21, 2006 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: clevi (Feb 21, 2006 9:12 am)

All this talk about suing for misadvertisement of EPA mpg is pretty funny, but certainly a waste of time.
 
The EPA knows the test is faulty and they are working on updating the test soon.
 
If a buyer is not willing to learn a new way to drive to take advantage of the hybrid technology, then they will not see the benefit of that technology.
 
  The hybrid which provides EPA mpg while "driving it just like a normal car" has yet to be invented.
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Re: Irreconcilable differences! [larsb] by gagrice
Feb 21, 2006 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 21, 2006 12:31 pm)

The hybrid which provides EPA mpg while "driving it just like a normal car" has yet to be invented.
 
I consider that a good reason to wait until they get the technology better. I agree with the posters that are unhappy with Honda for touting something that is not exactly true. Most of what I see on TV auto ads lately, are far from honest.
#108 of 138
Re: Irreconcilable differences! [gagrice] by thegraduate
Feb 27, 2006 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 21, 2006 12:59 pm)

Most of the TV ads on the HAH I've seen tout the horsepower and "green-ness" over the EPA numbers.

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