Last post on Oct 19, 2007 at 5:28 AM
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#62 of 65 Oh, this is fun..
Nov 28, 2006 (8:05 pm)
Maybe get this rolling again with some cars that didn't roll all the time.....
I was a member of the 80 VW Rabbit club. Yep. Made in Pennsylvania. Was a ball to drive when it ran. That "when it ran" was the problem. Typically VW it was full of electrical glitches. Two happened simultaneously - the idiot light for the engine temp stopped working (though not when you turned the key just short of starting - so you wouldn't know it wasn't working) and the radiator fan stopped. You can guess the rest. Fried motor. They tried to nail me for abuse and a $600 engine rebuild (in 1980 dollars - this was the first time I bought new) until I produced all the receipts. Only car I ever dumped before it was paid for.
Replaced it with an 80 Accord sedan which proved that you could make a good tinny car.
Then, of course, there was the 95 Windstall. An OK vehicle for 80K and not another inch! Popped engine seals like popcorn. Transmission rebuild. Ugh. Found out that Ford customer service made VW look like the Sisters of Charity.
Replaced that with an Accord as well....
I consider it a personal badge of honor that Windstall is in the Edmunds' spell checker.
Oct 09, 2007 (10:25 am)
Mine was a 98. But I understand the issues carried on for a couple of years after it was first introduced.
We just had a child and we wanted a vehicle that was reliable and could do a lot of different things. Occasionally haul a small boat, transport a family, carry groceries.
What a mistake. Here are some of the problems...
-Harmonic Balancer (60K miles)
That in turn damages the upper oil pan. (Major $)
-Breaks every 10K/Rotors every 20K ($)
-Transmission (90K) (Major $)
-Window switches (50K)
-Rear suspension (80K) (Major $)
-Fuel line and filter replacement (Required by
Mercedes, but not covered in a recall)
-Rear hatch always rubs paint off rear bumper. (Annoying!)
-Lot of interior noise/generally poor build quality
-Fuel Gauge (Never accurate)
-Engine sensor (triggered by gas cap 90% of the time)
-Electronic traction control failure. (Major $)
What a relief to unburden myself, and my family from this vehicle. It did handle well, but after a while it wasn't something I looked forward to drive because there was always an issue.
I fixed everything and sold it. Maybe it will serve the next owner better then it served me. Afterall they say a Mercedes is just hitting it's stride at 100K!
I'll watch as I drive by in my Honda Pilot.
#64 of 65 Fiat X 19, or X-19, or X 1/9
Oct 09, 2007 (9:12 pm)
I donít even remember the year of the thing, mid-70ís something. I guess Iíve tried to block out owning it.
I had it for about 2 weeks and stopped to get gas. When I tried to start it the timing belt broke and bent all the valves. That put it in the shop for almost a month. They must have sent the parts from Italy by whale-back.
I got a flat tire about once a week. It had tubes in the tires and, for some reason; they wanted to let the air have some freedom.
I took it on about a 200 mile trip (yes, obviously a bad idea). I decided to take the top off (it stowed in the front trunk). Between the sunburn and the windburn I couldnít sleep for two days. The best part was, when I was those 200 miles from home, the transmission started to make noises like the bearings were shot. That landed it in the shop for another three or four weeks.
When it was cold out it didnít want to start. I had to hold the choke with all my might and right before it sounded like the battery was about to give up it would start.
Out of the six months I owned it I was able to drive it about half the time.
I traded it in on a used í74 Monte Carlo which is another horror story. The dealer thought it was a Triumph TR7 instead of a Fiat, thank God.
#65 of 65 1996 Saturn SL2
Oct 19, 2007 (5:28 am)
After driving my mothers 96 SC1, my 21 year old mind decided to trade my Mitsu Mirage for an ordered 96 SL2 4dr 5-speed w/roof! The experience of feeling so adult, having them clap for me as I drove out, no co-signer - it was great; did I mention the moon roof?
One mile later, as I entered the interstate - SES light, stall - couldn't re-start. I called the roadside number and let them know I was stranded (I can't believe I had a cell in 96, but alas.) I told the woman that my car stopped and I could not re-start, she asked me for all of my information, then we got to "How many miles are on the car". My response, "6", she paused - "ugh, 6000 sir?", "no, 6 - so that means hurry!"
The SES light, followed by a stall and being stranded continued on for 8 months. During this time, my car spend a solid month in Spring Hill, TN being reviewed and having a nickel plated converter installed. I was given a car back that didn't run - and was told to have it removed from their lot of I would be charged storage .
A month later, the morning of lemon law court, I was contacted by head of Consumer Affairs. I didn't care about principle at aht point, I wanted my downpayment and life back. I took the payoff/return and $2K down and went right to the Subaru dealer. I told them that I, nor would anyone in my family, ever buy a Saturn again. 11 years later, still not one purchase of any GM product in my entire immediate and extended family.
The car smelled like rotten eggs too. Today, on my way to work I was behind a Vue, not that I saw it until the last minute, but I smelled it in front of me. I guess some things never change.