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Re: poor mpg [gpcramseysoral] by jkandler
Apr 08, 2008 (5:11 pm)
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Replying to: gpcramseysoral (Apr 08, 2008 8:30 am)

Hi, mine is a 2007 2.5S. The dealer said it will be close to 10,000 before it is broke in. I noticed right away that the mpg on the dashboard is about 5 mpg greater than the tank fills. So keep the gas receipts and check the real numbers. Over the winter in Wisconsin I averaged 25.7mpg. Now that spring is here it is 27.6mpg. These are all extremely bad. In the last 15 years I have not owned a car that I didn't get at least +10% over the published numbers for the highway. I drive 49 miles on the freeway each time, and average 40mph. Stangest thing, this is the sames dirve I have been doing for years with these other cars and filling at the same stations. Gee, I must be doing something wrong. If this stays this way I figure that it will cost me $10,000 over my normal usage life of the car to put gas in this thing. I am not a happy person. Friday I go back to the dealer again with my latest gas receipts.
 
If there are other out there with a problem like this I would sure like to hear from you.
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Re: poor mpg [jkandler] by sincraft
Apr 08, 2008 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: jkandler (Apr 08, 2008 5:11 pm)

This is just a pile of s***.
 
Personally, I would LOVE to see some class action lawsuits sent out against Honda and Nissan. At SEVERAL dealerships, I was quote WAY above the EPA ranges for City mileage.
 
Funny how, when you buy the car (IE: my truck) from a dealer, then call to complain about numbers below the EPA #'s, and they then suddenly remember the hilly terrain we live in and cheap tree hugger non effective gas we use - and use this as an excuse for the reason they flat out LIED to you about what to expect.
 
Why do they do this? Well because they all do.
 
The only solace is knowing that the Honda DOES get less MPG than the Altima.
 
We haven't even gotten ours yet, but I don't expect 23 honestly. Maybe 22. PA adopted the CA standards so we get less MPG. Funny, the website says to expect MORE MPG. Lies.
 
It's so funny how people believe this is about saving the trees or the purple nosed squirrels, when in reality it's about making constituents happy and making huge amounts of $$$$$.
 
I personally do not know what to do about buying this car either. We only have two choices. One has very light small scratches very low on the bumper about 1 cm in width , about 10 of them. The other, the nose ringed adorned car wash kid used sandpaper to wash the car they picked up on trade from another dealer and now it looks like what my truck did after a year of washing AND a winter.
 
I wish there was another option, but after driving the accord today and dealing with the dealers unwilling to do anything less than 3% ABOVE invoice, and after feeling the EXTREME lack of power the accord 4 cyl has to offer...it's a no brainer - Altima all the way.
 
Oh well. The lesser of two evils I suppose.
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Re: poor mpg [sincraft] by busiris
Apr 08, 2008 (8:24 pm)
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Replying to: sincraft (Apr 08, 2008 7:46 pm)

Personally, I would have a problem buying a brand new car with any known defect, be it paint or anything else.
 
It doesn't sound like your 2 dealer prospects are very customer oriented...that may be a clue to how you will be treated after the sale.
 
I purchased a 2.5SL sedan in January 08, and fortunately, the dealership I dealt with was very accomodating....So much, in fact, that when I went to pick the car up, it was raining, and they provided me a demo to drive until the rain ended the next day. The sales manager said that a new car should be driven off the lot on a sunny day to truely be appreciated. It wasn't a big issue to me, but it sent a huge message as to how I would be treated later if a problem arose...
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Re: poor mpg [busiris] by sincraft
Apr 09, 2008 (4:25 am)
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Replying to: busiris (Apr 08, 2008 8:24 pm)

I don't want to highjack this thread but I will say in response to you that yes, I'm in a pickle here. We don't service our vehicles at the same places we buy them anyway. I took my Frontier to the garage I bought it over a 6 months period complaining about gas mileage. Finally gave up and went to another Nissan garage where they found some evaporator that needed replaced. Check engine light would pop on, I would go in and 15 mins later they would come out saying it was just a routine light. Yea. After 2 times I left to go elsewhere.
 
I just put 10 gallons in the tank, marked my point and yesterday when we were almost home, it was about at the same point (Just before the yel light turns on) and we were at 194 miles! I would NEVER have been at 194 miles prior to the light turning on. Usually about 145-165. TOPS. I have this down to a science as I compared it to a full tank.
 
I'm hoping this Altima gets OK gas mileage. At 23 that is a bit LOWWWWW for a 4 cyl. Keep in mind also that we have cars with two different emissions.
 
CA, PA and about 15 other states NOW HAVE CARS that are CA emissions. Which means that it will be rated at 22 mph although they legally don't have to put that up there for some reason, they only have to state 23. If they are going to screw us, at least be honest about the end result eh?
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4 cyl vs 6, CA emissions vs 50 State - SHOCKING! by sincraft
Apr 09, 2008 (5:30 pm)
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I just ran the math for a car that lasts 125,000 miles. You will pay about $900 more for that car in fuel by best estimate if you have a car with CA emissions.
Funny, most people don't even REALIZE that their state only allows a dealer to sell CA emissions product.
AND, if they adopted this, they also force the fuel to not include as much sulfur in the gas which creates a very small amount of extra emissions. This raises the cost of fuel AND with all the other restrictions in the fuel - reduces your MPG further!
 
I thought the whole idea was to have a more efficient car that uses less fossil fuels, NOT to reduce the emissions only to have to create MORE emissions because we will have to use MORE fuel.
 
IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE!
 
So then I see this on the Nissan Site.
 QR25DE — 2.5-liter DOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder
    Horsepower — 175 hp3 5,600 rpm
    Torque — 180 lb-ft3 3,900 rpm
Emissions — Tier 2, Bin 5 (LEV2-SULEV in CA)
VQ35DE — 3.5-liter DOHC 24-valve V6
    Horsepower — 270 hp 6,000 rpm
    Torque — 258 lb-ft 4,400 rpm
Emissions — Tier 2, Bin 5
 
(FYI SULEV stands for Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle) It rates at a Bin 3 and VERY close to ZERO emission output.
 
However, the 6 cyl does not seem to fall under this category?
 
CAN THIS BE TRUE? Maybe THIS is the reason why the 6cyl people are seeing such great MPG in contrast to the 4????? If that's the case, then I'm paying the extra few bucks up front and getting a 6. That actually pushes me toward a more gas guzzling care at that point lol.
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Re: poor mpg [sincraft] by gpcramseysoral
Apr 10, 2008 (5:48 am)
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Replying to: sincraft (Apr 08, 2008 8:48 am)

I pay' ed well under invoice for my Altima. This is if you take into consideration that my trade was actually worth nothing because the work it needed exceeded the value of the car. Obvcouse what it cost me to repair the vehicle and what it cost's them to repair it is two different things. But all things considered i'm pleased with the cost of the vehicle.
 
I'm on a lease so a 1000.00 or so was relatively inconsequential for me. It was all about getting the most MPG's for the lowest payment without stepping into something that has no power.
 
So my cost/value situation was unique to say the least.
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Re: poor mpg [sincraft] by kdshapiro
Apr 11, 2008 (4:17 am)
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Replying to: sincraft (Apr 08, 2008 7:46 pm)

EXTREME lack of power
 
One persons driving like a granny is another persons driving like a bat out of you know where. This is a case in point. Accord 4 cyl by all means has never been criticised for lack of power. OTOH when I drove the 2.5 compared to my XT I thought it accelerated like molasses and didn't like the drive very much.
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2008 Altima 2.5S SL actual Gas Mileage by snelsonl
Apr 11, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Greetings. I am currently in negotiations with a dealership for a 2008 2.5S SL Altima. The dealership claims the gas mileage is 26/town - 35/hwy. Both Edmunds and Kelley have the gas mileage listed well below that at 23/31. Could anyone currently driving this vehicle shed some light on what the actual gas mileage will be? I live in flat Florida so maybe that will help...?
 
Thx!
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Re: 2008 Altima 2.5S SL actual Gas Mileage [snelsonl] by motoguy128
Apr 11, 2008 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: snelsonl (Apr 11, 2008 9:17 am)

26/35 was the old pre '08 EPA rating system. for '08 they now list a more realistic 23/31.
 
Rating sare only ment ot be used on a caparitive bases. So if you have a Honda Accord 4cyl rated at 21/31... you can therefore expect about 9% better mileage in the city and the same on the highway over the Accord.
 
If you're trading in a Chevy Envoy rated at somthing like 12/17, you could expect to get roughly 47% better mileage in the city and 45% better mileage on the freeway.
 
More improtantly, in the city, heavier cars get worse mileage than lighter ones, and on the freway, better aerodynamics help the most.
 
Realistically comparing the Altima with other midsized cars, you could conclude that it's the lighter weight of the car that helps mileage the most, more than the CVT transmission.
 
On theo other hand, consider that the Altima has more horespower, so you can expext to get worse mileage than other midsized cars if you drive aggressively.

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