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#122 of 196
Re: Your're killing me [mswlogo] by jkandler
Mar 09, 2008 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: mswlogo (Feb 27, 2008 4:38 am)

I have a 20007 Altima 2.5L CVT with 10,000 miles that's is only getting 25 MPG on the highway. The dealer sayes it should get better very soon. This is 10 MPG less than published and I typically get 3-5 greater on other cars I have owned. So far the dealer has done nothing. The way I figure it this car will cost me $8-10,000 extra to operate because of the poor mileage. Any other similar experiences?? Is this a lemon?
 
Jim
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Re: Your're killing me [jkandler] by jd10013
Mar 10, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: jkandler (Mar 09, 2008 6:17 am)

its hard to say. a lot of things factor into your mileage. driving habits, traffic, weather, and even the gas you put in it. if your in an area that is using 10% (or god forbid 20%) ethanol, then that will kill your mileage. there could also be other local, state, or epa required additives to your gas that always have the effect of lowering your MPG. It's one of the seldom mentions side effects of all the "green" crap out there.
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Re: Your're killing me [jd10013] by motoguy128
Mar 23, 2008 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: jd10013 (Mar 10, 2008 7:09 am)

We just took delivery on a new '08 2.5SL. I don't know how people are getting such poor mileage. We averaged 31mpg on the trip home at 70mph. That's the same as my '06 Accord average on the freeway at that speed. My wife's previous '06 Altima would have averaged 29mpg on that same drive. In mixed driving this afternoon we averaged 29mpg on mostly 2 lanes roads.
 
Overall, it seems better than the '06 Altima 2.5S we traded in. I was skeptical of the CVT, but it's made me a believer. The manual mode works very well. Unlike a conventional automatic, where you can feel the torque converter lock and unlock, the CVT is directly connected with a similar feel to a manual transmission.
 
The passat is a great car, but the VW 2.0T and 3.6 V6 need premium fuel. Reliability for most VW's is well below average, and my only VW dealer is almost 2 hours away. You don't get much for $25k on a VW either.
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Cal vs 50 state emissions??!?!? by sincraft
Apr 07, 2008 (8:46 am)
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We were JUST about to buy a 2.5sl after a long search for the one we wanted, only to find out that PA (where I live) has just adopted this stupid CA global warming hoax and thus now - all vehicles herein must be ordered with CA emissions.
 
Unfortunately, the one they found is a CA emissions.
 
So our option is to continue searching for a 50 state emissions vehicle (that still passes CA emissions believe it or not) or , taking delivery of this vehicle that gets 1 mpg LESS and 5 less hp!
 
We do ALOT of stop and go driving. 1 mile, traffic light...continue for 20 miles. Someone suggested the 6 cyl vs the 4 for actual better mileage in these conditions but the car dealer suggested against it if that would be our purpose for upgrading to a 6 cyl.
 
Suggestions?
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Re: poor mpg [kshield] by gpcramseysoral
Apr 08, 2008 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: kshield (Feb 23, 2008 3:00 am)

I just purchased an 08 2.5s as well. I've got bursts up to 35mpg on the highway. But after filling up at 1/2 a tank i'm yet to break 20mpg. I drive about 15-20 miles per day and about 1/3 of this is highway. I think it's all the hills in the Pittsburgh area. I'm beginning to wonder if I should have bought the 3.5s. I'm also quite dissapoionted in this....
 
So what is this breakin period and how long is it supposed to last? I've had it about a 1.5 month's and have put just over 900 miles on it. Also what kind what kind of mpg increase can I expect after this period?
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Re: poor mpg [gpcramseysoral] by sincraft
Apr 08, 2008 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: gpcramseysoral (Apr 08, 2008 8:30 am)

Sounds like you got a CA emissions car for sure. I'm hearing more and more that the Altima with CA emissions actually gets 1.5 less mpg (due to our hills). How nice, now we will have to drill for more oil to make up for it. Everything is universal. People don't understand this. I wonder what people are seeing in Pittsburgh with Honda's.
We went yesterday to buy our Altima (pittsburgh also) and due to some small bumper scuffs we asked that they buff it for our approval or possibly to decline it if we are not happy. It's the only black with blond leather v4 out there really. So I started looking around again last night and came across the ...
 
HONDA ACCORD 08! EX-L.
 
At first, when we started this process - we looked at an 07 without leather and I believe the smaller less powerful 4 cyl. So, tonight we are going to look at the new 08 with the stronger engine.
 
The thing that is kiling me about the Altima is their soft paint. I own a new frontier and have so many little scuffs etc and baby this thing. It's like it was born to scratch easily. Very soft paint. But the cool key system is really keeping me eyeing up the Altima.
 
The Honda has LESS MPG. Rated at 21. The CVT transmission in your car 'should' keep you at the 23 mph. Pending you keep the rpms to about 2k. I didn't even look at what we were getting on our test drive. Yes we have MANY hills and traffic lights to deal with. I'm willing to lose a MPG to the Honda if I can assure I have better stopping power with the ESC and Brake Assist that comes standard on it vs the Altima that doesn't even offer it as an option. It's not for me so, it's important that it is safe and drives well in the snow.
 
I'm seeing alot of mixed reviews about the gas mileage of the Altima. On a mixed environment , 23 can be had but most are not seeing that. Then there are the lofty 26 mph avg for the 6 cyl owners. You have to take much of this with a grain of salt. My brother claims 17mph on his huge truck. But he drives on straight roads and only about 5 miles A DAY, probably never breaking 40 mph.
 
For us, it will come down to the drive. All things being equal it looks like we may opt for the Honda. I can get invoice pricing on both, what did you pay for your altima? The honda will be more by about 1200 if you include the nissan $1k rebate. Over the life of the loan it will be almost $2k exact more expensive for the Honda (due to nissans 3.9 vs honda's 5.0 % rate)
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Re: poor mpg [sincraft] by motoguy128
Apr 08, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: sincraft (Apr 08, 2008 8:48 am)

All things being equal, the Accord being about 300lbs heavier will get lower mileage, especially with hills. However, as many people are finding, it's easy to put your foot into the CVT and not realize that you're accelerating harder than you realize.
 
This isn't magic... the Altima 2.5L makes more power under about 6000RPM than the Hondas 2.4L. (look at the torque ratings) at 4000RPM, where you use it most, the Altima makes as much as 20 more HP than the Accord. More HP = more gas if both have similar overall effeciency. So if you drove both car side by side on the same road, you'll get better mileage with the Altima, but wthout realizing it, you're probably taking advantage of the extra power. The Accord would need to rev another 500RPM to match the Altima's power, an then another 300RPM to make up for the extra weight.
 
So... don't put you're foot into it, keep the engine under 2500RPM and you should see an improvement. The trick it to keep an eye on the tachometer, try and keep it from climbing as much as possible. If you're careful with the throttle, you'll find the car can climb like a goat at low RPM's. I've crawled up a 10% grade at about 10mph at only 1400RPM... with 1 passenger. I was expecting it to rev to 2500, but it locked up the torque converter and kept it in the lowest range on the CVT and muscled up it.
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Re: poor mpg [gpcramseysoral] by jkandler
Apr 08, 2008 (5:11 pm)
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Replying to: gpcramseysoral (Apr 08, 2008 8:30 am)

Hi, mine is a 2007 2.5S. The dealer said it will be close to 10,000 before it is broke in. I noticed right away that the mpg on the dashboard is about 5 mpg greater than the tank fills. So keep the gas receipts and check the real numbers. Over the winter in Wisconsin I averaged 25.7mpg. Now that spring is here it is 27.6mpg. These are all extremely bad. In the last 15 years I have not owned a car that I didn't get at least +10% over the published numbers for the highway. I drive 49 miles on the freeway each time, and average 40mph. Stangest thing, this is the sames dirve I have been doing for years with these other cars and filling at the same stations. Gee, I must be doing something wrong. If this stays this way I figure that it will cost me $10,000 over my normal usage life of the car to put gas in this thing. I am not a happy person. Friday I go back to the dealer again with my latest gas receipts.
 
If there are other out there with a problem like this I would sure like to hear from you.
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Re: poor mpg [jkandler] by sincraft
Apr 08, 2008 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: jkandler (Apr 08, 2008 5:11 pm)

This is just a pile of s***.
 
Personally, I would LOVE to see some class action lawsuits sent out against Honda and Nissan. At SEVERAL dealerships, I was quote WAY above the EPA ranges for City mileage.
 
Funny how, when you buy the car (IE: my truck) from a dealer, then call to complain about numbers below the EPA #'s, and they then suddenly remember the hilly terrain we live in and cheap tree hugger non effective gas we use - and use this as an excuse for the reason they flat out LIED to you about what to expect.
 
Why do they do this? Well because they all do.
 
The only solace is knowing that the Honda DOES get less MPG than the Altima.
 
We haven't even gotten ours yet, but I don't expect 23 honestly. Maybe 22. PA adopted the CA standards so we get less MPG. Funny, the website says to expect MORE MPG. Lies.
 
It's so funny how people believe this is about saving the trees or the purple nosed squirrels, when in reality it's about making constituents happy and making huge amounts of $$$$$.
 
I personally do not know what to do about buying this car either. We only have two choices. One has very light small scratches very low on the bumper about 1 cm in width , about 10 of them. The other, the nose ringed adorned car wash kid used sandpaper to wash the car they picked up on trade from another dealer and now it looks like what my truck did after a year of washing AND a winter.
 
I wish there was another option, but after driving the accord today and dealing with the dealers unwilling to do anything less than 3% ABOVE invoice, and after feeling the EXTREME lack of power the accord 4 cyl has to offer...it's a no brainer - Altima all the way.
 
Oh well. The lesser of two evils I suppose.
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Re: poor mpg [sincraft] by busiris
Apr 08, 2008 (8:24 pm)
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Replying to: sincraft (Apr 08, 2008 7:46 pm)

Personally, I would have a problem buying a brand new car with any known defect, be it paint or anything else.
 
It doesn't sound like your 2 dealer prospects are very customer oriented...that may be a clue to how you will be treated after the sale.
 
I purchased a 2.5SL sedan in January 08, and fortunately, the dealership I dealt with was very accomodating....So much, in fact, that when I went to pick the car up, it was raining, and they provided me a demo to drive until the rain ended the next day. The sales manager said that a new car should be driven off the lot on a sunny day to truely be appreciated. It wasn't a big issue to me, but it sent a huge message as to how I would be treated later if a problem arose...

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