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#81 of 83 Re: Not open to debate [mayberryguy] by cubanomx Jun 28, 2007 (11:00 am)
Replying to: mayberryguy (Jun 28, 2007 8:28 am) Volvo = Ford = YES!!   Ford own Jaguar and Land Rover too.... is this bad? They own in the past Aston Martin as well and put more and more money in Volvo designs and security... this is bad? I don't think so!!!
#82 of 83 Re: sorry bmw [dhanley] by jaybee6 Dec 12, 2008 (8:11 pm)
Replying to: dhanley (Jun 22, 2007 9:46 pm) dhanley said:   http://www.iihs.org/sr/pdfs/sr4204.pdf    Kind of interesting. The s40 had 89 deaths versus million miles driven versus 35 in the 3-series sedan/coupe. So you're over 2.5 times more likely to die in a crash in an s40 compared to a 3-series according to these numbers.   Ah... no sorry, you're wrong. if you actually READ the pdf you posted, you'll see that numbers are per million registered vehicle years, not per million miles driven as you stated. There is a big difference. NO conclusions about the safety of any of these vehicles can be drawn from "millions of registered vehicle years", since this doesn't tell you anything about the number of miles driven. Without that, the data is nearly useless.
#83 of 83 Re: Not open to debate [mayberryguy] by cubanomx Dec 14, 2008 (2:58 pm)
Replying to: mayberryguy (Jun 28, 2007 8:28 am) 5.Volvo=Ford   This is again a sign of limited understanding of several brand factors. Ford owns Volvo, and nothing more. Some people out there purchase a Ford Focus 2008 and believe they have a Volvo. Because the T5 engine and the S40 chassis is so good, they use it in the Focus ST. But that is all. The electronics used in the S40 is high grade - high end extreme 0.001 tolerance electronic components, Focus use 1~5% electronic components, the Volvo have 4 kind of steels, the Focus have only 1 type (2009 models will have 2 types), Volvo have 4 times more welding points, and sips, absx, stc, dstc, ebd, eba etc are inexisting in ford focus.   This is just a sign why people confuse the issue ford owns the brand and nothing more, they do not build the volvo, they do not design the volvo, they only own it. And they own land rover as well and do you will refuse it a land rover supercharded suv??

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