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Sedans Volvo S40 Volvo S40 vs BMW 3 Series
83 messages, Last post on Dec 14, 2008 at 2:58 PM
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Replying to: dhanley (Jun 22, 2007 9:46 pm) As I explain before: no other company expend the ammount of money on security like volvo. I trust 100% on BMW (my next SUV will be the new X5) but Volvo is with no doubt a sign of secure and reliable car. Thanks for the info and drive safe!
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Replying to: cubanomx (Jun 23, 2007 6:51 am) Oh, yeah, silly me for thinking crashtest scores and driver death rates mean anything in regards to safety. :/ Good luck with the x5. |
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There are a few facts that aren't open to debate. 1. Volvo is safer than BMW 2. Volvo is more reliable and last longer than BMW 3. BMW outperforms Volvo on the race track 4. BMW is more popular than Volvo However it is debatable whether Volvo or BMW is better...well not really, it comes down to a matter of personal preference/choice |
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Replying to: bons (Jun 27, 2007 9:43 am) 1. Volvo is safer than BMW 2. Volvo is more reliable and last longer than BMW 3. BMW outperforms Volvo on the race track 4. BMW is more popular than Volvo However it is debatable whether Volvo or BMW is better...well not really, it comes down to a matter of personal preference/choice 5. Volvo = Ford 
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Replying to: mayberryguy (Jun 28, 2007 8:28 am) Look like Ford have decided to put Volvo on a pedestal (Volvo is not for sale, but Jaguar and Land Rover are). As Ford's most Luxurious automaker Volvo will be free to compete BMW and Mercedes. http://www.leftlanenews.com/volvo-not-for-sale-jaguar-land-rover-still-on-the-block.html |
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Replying to: mayberryguy (Jun 28, 2007 8:28 am) Ford own Jaguar and Land Rover too.... is this bad? They own in the past Aston Martin as well and put more and more money in Volvo designs and security... this is bad? I don't think so!!! |
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Replying to: dhanley (Jun 22, 2007 9:46 pm) http://www.iihs.org/sr/pdfs/sr4204.pdf Kind of interesting. The s40 had 89 deaths versus million miles driven versus 35 in the 3-series sedan/coupe. So you're over 2.5 times more likely to die in a crash in an s40 compared to a 3-series according to these numbers. Ah... no sorry, you're wrong. if you actually READ the pdf you posted, you'll see that numbers are per million registered vehicle years, not per million miles driven as you stated. There is a big difference. NO conclusions about the safety of any of these vehicles can be drawn from "millions of registered vehicle years", since this doesn't tell you anything about the number of miles driven. Without that, the data is nearly useless. |
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Replying to: mayberryguy (Jun 28, 2007 8:28 am) This is again a sign of limited understanding of several brand factors. Ford owns Volvo, and nothing more. Some people out there purchase a Ford Focus 2008 and believe they have a Volvo. Because the T5 engine and the S40 chassis is so good, they use it in the Focus ST. But that is all. The electronics used in the S40 is high grade - high end extreme 0.001 tolerance electronic components, Focus use 1~5% electronic components, the Volvo have 4 kind of steels, the Focus have only 1 type (2009 models will have 2 types), Volvo have 4 times more welding points, and sips, absx, stc, dstc, ebd, eba etc are inexisting in ford focus. This is just a sign why people confuse the issue ford owns the brand and nothing more, they do not build the volvo, they do not design the volvo, they only own it. And they own land rover as well and do you will refuse it a land rover supercharded suv?? |
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