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Hyundai Tucson, SUV
Aug 03, 2005 (5:06 am)
Monday night we contributed our bit to the overall economy, purchasing a 2005, Mesa Red Tucson GLS V6 at Antwerpin Hyundai in Clarksville, MD. First new car in my 42-year driving experience. Of course, I only get to see it when my wife parks it in the driveway. Outside of the test drive, my only time behind the wheel came on the 10.8-mile drive from the dealer to home... .
Our daughter bought a 2005 Sonata there in June, so the sales person knew us, and knew I wouldn't respond to pressure (I'd rather have a root canal than talk with car sales people.). The deal was good, about $19,800 plus the taxes, license, etc. We also added the extended warranty because we tend to drive cars until they're on life support. Wasn't quite as prepared for the "back end" of the deal, however, so I want to sharpen up on those skills before I go back to purchase a 2006 Sonata in a few months. Any tips for me? Hyundai sure has come along nicely since my '88 Excel.
#20 of 295 Re: New Owner [rdillier]
Aug 04, 2005 (11:33 am)
My tip would be to not wait a couple months before getting a Sonata. Right now you will get $1,000 owner loyalty rebate and $1,000 bonus cash if you finance through Hyundai.
#21 of 295 Price and Experience-Tucson LX
Aug 10, 2005 (8:35 pm)
Bought a Tucson LX from Fitzgerald Automall in Gaitherburg. No haggle Dealer (supposedly). Paid $21,365 (plus taxes). Overall a good buying experience, except they forgot about the $500 military rebate (luckily I found out about it through the Edmunds info pak, that alone more than paid for the fee so I knew to get it), they sold the car I wanted and had to drive one down from Baltimore.
IMPORTANT-if you go there, a word to the wise, Fitzgerald stores their excess cars at Lakeforest mall in a separate parking lot on the HECHTS side of the mall. Well worth it to drive over there and see all the cars and colors (and prices) without a salesman hovering around you. They also have a lot there (1 over) that is full of jeeps.
As an aside, I tried to get Alexandria Hyundai involved to see what kind of deal I could get from them. They were a bit aloof to be polite. Total waste of time.
Fitzgerald did try the strong arm on "glass breakage sensors". Brought in this older gentleman that was "just looking out for me". I thought he was going to be in tears pleading with me to just get the sensors ($399). You should have seen the look on his face when another salesman came by and told him the sensors they had were incompatible with the Tucson!
Aug 13, 2005 (4:16 am)
Just picked up a 4wd GLS Tuscan (alpine frost). Sticker was $23,199, I paid 20,400 plus tax& tags. Current rebate for me was $1000, I didnt qualify for previous owner rebate(500). Priced it out at 4 different dealers, the one I bought from was about $400 less than all others...
#23 of 295 Re: 2005 GLS 4WD [greg_in_pa]
Aug 14, 2005 (3:03 pm)
I'm from New York City. On Friday we (wife and I and 2 kids) test drove an automatic drive GS. Yesterday we test drove a FWD GLS (also automatic). We liked it and after some this and that'ing got a price quote of $20K for a 4WD GLS.
This price is supposed to include taxes (normally around $1800), delivery fee (normally around $595). Since we might take the 3.9% Hyundia financing, the above fee waives the $1K rebate offer (apparently it is either/or). This afternoon as we were reviewing the "order" sheet, we noticed that it is non-committal and that the guy did not write that the price was inclusive of all fees and taxes.
Frankly, I find this hard to believe, but since the manager even said yes in our presence twice that they would waive FWD to 4WD upgrade, and no delivery free, we are going to try and stick to our guns on that (for the little good it will probably do) but expect they will claim that including the tax was our misunderstanding.
Has anybody heard of any deal such as this? Or are we about too enter finance manager hell? Normally I'd expect the latter, but now that Hyundia is having the rebates and dealers will want to get the 2005 off the lots, I'm curious if this is going to be normal pricing for the next month?
That said, we got into a deep discussion around 2pm and decided that it's likely we're about to be taken for a ride and went to visit another local dealer. Well, suffice it to say that this guy wanted to charge tax and delivery fee. To boot, he also wants to charge $500 advertising (already told him that was ridiculous but for now he wants to stick to that it's normal and just ok to charge that) and also a $493 "pre-fee" (when I asked him what the was he said it was a fee to remove the plastic and such from the seat, I had to do what I could to be on the floor laughing to death). We almost got him to waive the $493 fee, though he insisted it too was normal and just ok to charge, but as the price is so different than the alledged $20K from the other dealer, don't know what to make of what.
Very much thanks in advance, even if but to say I'm just doing wishful thinking from either dealer. I shudder the thought of perhaps having to visit a third dealer (which may have to be in Manhattan) to got a 3rd opinion
#24 of 295 Re: 2005 GLS 4WD [gregfromnyc]
Aug 14, 2005 (3:21 pm)
Also, in case the $20K dealer is into playing games, whether we go with them or not.. we're have quandry question, though it will help if we need to redecide the purchase...
And that quandry is about the 4WD. First, I'm confused about whether it is true 4wd or not. Anybody know? (sorry, I don't know internal terms or whatnot to phrase this any better).
But mostly: We drive in sand for recreation, etc. but if had too, can find alternative sources of recreation if it came down to it. So this reduces the question to this: Give we have iced roads, snow, etc in New York City, how will a FWD fare? A few people mention Buffalo and upstate NY (at least I think they did) so am curious if any of you have FWDs and how they survived winters? I'm not so concerned about blizzards of the century (nobody will be able to move their cars then) or even about highway driving (most will be cleared enough to not be a problem) but driving to local supermarket, parking on iced parking spots (getting in and out), getting 10 miles to next town on local road, etc.
So, IOWs, notwithstanding my technical questions, do I really need 4WD/AWD? This may help if the dealer really doesn't offer the same cost cost FWD and 4WD.
#25 of 295 Re: 2005 GLS 4WD [gregfromnyc]
Aug 14, 2005 (5:03 pm)
The Tucson has traction control and stability control; so you do not need 4WD. 4WD will give you better acceleration out of stop signs on snow but that's about it.
#26 of 295 Re: 2005 GLS 4WD [guyf]
Aug 14, 2005 (6:04 pm)
Minus say driving on dry sand, is it generally agreed that that is the only benefit to 4WD on a Tuscon?
#27 of 295 Re: 2005 GLS 4WD [gregfromnyc]
Aug 15, 2005 (5:13 pm)
Well, the good news is that we went back to the dealer and the sales rep appeared to write in all the right numbers for us in all the right places. So it appears we have a 4WD GLS automatic "for $20K." We're going to finance $10K of it and so taxes are included, so it's 3.9% on that, or $239 for 60 months (or $14340 if done over 60 months). So bottom line is $24340. Pickup should be tomorrow! My fingers are crossed it goes smooth.
#28 of 295 Re: 2005 GLS 4WD [gregfromnyc]
Aug 16, 2005 (4:28 am)
A loan of $10K over 5 years at 3.9% should give you monthly payments of $183.71 per month! A total of $11,022.86.
There is a macro in Excel to calculate monthly payments on a loan.
The numbers your dealer is giving you do not seem right!