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Re: TL v IS v TSX? [laurasdada] by scottm123
Aug 09, 2006 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Aug 08, 2006 8:54 am)

"BMW M3? If you're considering TL vs. M3, if you buy the TL then you could probably by a new Miata for fun with the money you save over the M3!!!"
  
Sorry, I didn't make that too clear...
 
What I was trying to say is...
 
After seeing the friend's M3, I'm starting to look at the 330xi again.
No M3 for me... I need something that will drive through snow, not just look pretty in the garage 4 months a year.
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Re: TL v IS v TSX? [scottm123] by louiswei
Aug 09, 2006 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 09, 2006 4:46 am)

If you want 60 extra HP you should hold off until the 07' 335i gets here. However if extra horses aren't your cup of tea and are satisfied with the 330i I'd say now is a good time to get it.
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Re: TL v IS v TSX? [louiswei] by scottm123
Aug 11, 2006 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Aug 09, 2006 4:58 am)

"If you want 60 extra HP you should hold off until the 07' 335i gets here. However if extra horses aren't your cup of tea and are satisfied with the 330i I'd say now is a good time to get it."
 
I am looking at the BMW more closely, but I think if I decide to go that way, it'll be for a slighty used '06 with very low miles, and a Certified Pre-Owned warranty.
I cant stand the idea of paying top dollar for a car with a 4 year warranty that I'll wear out in milage in 2 years.
That added with the fact that I can save enough to get what should be included (Leather, NAV, Stereo)... a slightly used model may be my best option.
 
That's what makes the TL such a contender... the toys are included for a very reasonable price.
But I need a driving experience as well.
I like the 330 and IS more for this reason.
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Re: rant. [berlina] by scottm123
Aug 14, 2006 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: berlina (Aug 01, 2006 11:31 am)

In reply to the comment about the IS350's base price...
 
"I just looked, and base pricing theoretically starts at 37,030 ish."
 
Lexus prices can differ depending on location.
For example, at one point, the Mark Levinson package was available on the west coast, but not here in New England.
The website will differ depending on the zipcode entered.
 
I'm in MA. Currently, the base price for the IS350 is $35,440.00
 
You can avoid all of this by special ordering, but that can take a few months.
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scottm123 by z71bill
Aug 14, 2006 (5:15 am)
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Back in April I looked at the IS 250/350 - the availability was very poor - no cars in stock. Since I had some time I waited until July to see if inventory improved. It did not. I considered ordering a car - I asked two different dealerships if I could get a car without the 18 inch wheels - I was told NO a car could not even be ordered that way. I don't recall exactly - but there was one other so called option that was really required - some luxury package maybe. I ask them - why are they called options if ever car must have them? There is no answer for this question. But I think I know what the real reason is - Lexus like to say their base MSRP is under $35K (or whatever). I am in Houston Texas - maybe its different in other places - but all I know is there was no way possible to order a base IS in Houston Texas. Kind of sad - the IS was our first choice.
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Re: scottm123 [z71bill] by scottm123
Aug 14, 2006 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: z71bill (Aug 14, 2006 5:15 am)

I will admit that getting what you want from Lexus takes much more time and patience.
 
Go to an Acura dealer, tell them the TL color and package you want, and they pull it around for you.
Couldn't be easier.
 
Lexus is nothing like that.
With Lexus, they build a model at the factory in Japan in clumps.
By this I mean... In January, February and March, the IS350 may only be built with the Sport Package.
In April, May and June, it may only be built with the Luxury and Mark Levinson packages.
 
What this means is that if you want something not in current production, it CAN be ordered, at no additional cost, but it takes anywhere between a few weeks and 5 months to get.
 
I'm sorry if your Lexus salesguy was a moron.... I've seen this problem a lot while shopping around the Lexus dealers, they're mostly meatheads with little to no knowledge of the cars, or their options.
 
I was wanting the IS350 with Nav/Luxury/Mark Levinson Packages.
I was told 5 months for delivery.
I decided to wait until the 07s arrived.
Nothing worse than taking delivery of an 06 one month before the 07's arrive!
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scottm123 by z71bill
Aug 14, 2006 (10:04 am)
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The sales people I worked with at Lexus were pretty good - I think they knew I was a serious buyer - not someone just window shopping. They searched for a car meeting my requirements at another dealership - looked at what was ordered (both at their dealership and others) plus offered to order a car. Not sure what else they could have done - I do not think they were playing games - there really was a very limited supply of IS cars.
 
I also went through the - if I order a 2006 at the end of July I would get it in October - about the same time the 2007's show up.
 
I also agree with you about the Acura TL being easy to find - several dealers had over 100 in stock - every color combo - with & without nav. They were below invoice without much negotiation. I still like the cars Lexus sells - and will shop them next time we buy a vehicle.
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Re: TL vs IS350?? why waste time comparing [scottm123] by ajmtbm
Aug 17, 2006 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Aug 04, 2006 9:41 am)

how is the legroom in an is rear seat vs. the TL. on paper, it seems like a lot...
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Re: scottm123 [z71bill] by lexus_jn
Aug 17, 2006 (10:06 pm)
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Replying to: z71bill (Aug 14, 2006 10:04 am)

I heard the new IS300 will be available for sale in the Fall It could be around 250 to 275 hp. If you are not in a hurry why can't wait and then compare.
 
I think Acura TL's interior is very cool but its exterior look fails to impress me. Hopefully, the new TL will change all that
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Re: scottm123 [lexus_jn] by scottm123
Aug 18, 2006 (4:20 am)
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Replying to: lexus_jn (Aug 17, 2006 10:06 pm)

"I heard the new IS300 will be available for sale in the Fall It could be around 250 to 275 hp. If you are not in a hurry why can't wait and then compare.
  
I think Acura TL's interior is very cool but its exterior look fails to impress me. Hopefully, the new TL will change all that"

 
The Lexus IS300 is no longer in production.
The 2nd Gen IS is the 250/350 and HP is not changing this year, so what you heard about the 250-275 hp is incorrect, or you're reading from an old article.
The TL's exterior is not changing until the 09 model arrives.
The 07 model just has minor changes and offers the Type-S, at a rediculous price, if you ask me.
 
As for the back seat room in the IS... it sucks.
The TL offers about 3" more legroom than the IS. In fact, the IS's backseat is usually the deal breaker for most people.
I test drove the IS250 but the IS350 is in my crosshairs.
I put the drivers seat where I would be comfortable to drive, and then climbed in the back.
It was snug, but I fit.
An adult could sit back there for about 30 minutes, wouldn't push it past that.
 
Now, the wife sits in the passenger seat and there is plenty of legroom behind her since she has shorter legs.
I dont plan on toting a ton of people in my next ride.
It's gonna be my A -> B toy, and my daughter has more than enough room in the back.
 
I have the 7 passenger 06 MDX for all my multi-passenger needs.

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