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Remote start by onlysurfer
Dec 26, 2005 (11:45 am)
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I'm leasing 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L Navi (5600 total due at inception followed by 41 payments of 325/month each 0 inclusive of everything - 42 months, 12k/month, from a dealer in Boston metro area - this is if any one is curious - and now I'm curious how good is this deal, not that it matters much now)
 
I still have to pick up the car like SUV, and I want to have a remote start installed in this one. I'd like to hear from perople who have experience with remote start on any of the Honda Pilot models. Also, any thoughts, comments would be appreciated about installing remote start and it's consequences - good or bad.
 
Thank you and happy holidays.
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Re: Remote start [onlysurfer] by steve_ HOST
Dec 26, 2005 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: onlysurfer (Dec 26, 2005 11:45 am)

Please post over in Honda Pilot: Lease Questions too so others can learn from your experience. Thanks,
 
Steve, Host
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New 06 Pilot is Dead by ettamarna
Dec 28, 2005 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: floatingcloud (Dec 21, 2005 6:13 am)

I purchased my 2006 Amazon Green EXL-Nav 4WD in early November. As of late December, it is dead (with less than 1,500 miles).
 
Overall, I really like the design and features of the 06 Pilot. However, I have been extremely dissapointed with the build quality.
 
Since picking up the new car, I began to notice a number of creaks and rattles in the interior. Not what I expected from a Honda (I also have a 2003 S2000 that has been flawless for 18,000 miles). After being worked on for 6 service hours, mainly applying silicone grease, most of the rattles disappeared. Several weeks later, they started to return.
 
I also noticed that the front passanger door rubs the quarter panel, resulting in a spot (below the hinge) where the paint has been rubbed off. This has not yet been fixed. Not sure what the fix would be, either...
 
My wife has noticed the audio (both nav and stereo) has gone off. This lasted for about 20 minutes, with no apparent cause. There was a loud "popping" sound, and the audio mysteriously returned. Sounds like some sort of electrical gremlin.
 
Then the biggest issue occurred on Tuesday before Christmas. The Pilot died, leaving my pregnant wife stranded in a snow storm. We had to have the car towed to our dealership the next day. According to the service tech, the "third bearing" was "contaminated at the factory" and "disintegrated" in the engine. This caused metal flakes to circulate in the oil, and eventually clog up somewhere in the engine, resulting in the lack of oil pressure.
 
Long story short, the recommended fix is to now replace every engine part that has oil going through it ("short block, cylinder heads," etc...).
 
My wife is now driving around in a lovely, powder puff blue 4 cyl Toyota Camry loaner. It is a perfectly fine vehicle, just not an eight passanger, AWD SUV. Sure made for a fun drive from Cleveland to Boston for Christmas...
 
Now I am thinking that my Pilot is a . Certainly not what I was expecting from Honda, given my favorable S2000 experience. Maybe this has something to do with vehicles being assembled in Alabama around/following Katrina. Who knows?
 
I have filed a case with Honda of NA requesting that they replace my vehicle with a new one (hopefully one made in the Ontario plant). If they do, I'll just consider this a "mulligan." If not, well, I think I'll switch to being a Toyota guy (4Runner, not light blue Camry).
 
Will update this posting when I hear from Honda of NA.
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Back Up Sensors by eduardo613
Dec 28, 2005 (7:34 pm)
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I picked up a 2006 Steel Blue EX-L Navi a month ago. I got an "I owe You" for the back-Up sensors (which are supposed to be color-coded)... As of yet, the back up sensors have not come in. Has anyone had the same experience? Are the sensors really not available (so readily)?
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Re: New 06 Pilot is Dead [ettamarna] by ettamarna
Dec 30, 2005 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: ettamarna (Dec 28, 2005 2:47 pm)

I talked to American Honda yesterday. No luck with my request to have my Pilot replaced with a new one. If I want to go the buy-back route, I have to go through arbitration. I'd lose, of course, because I'm not (yet) at the Ohio lemon law threshold of pain.
 
I pushed back, saying that it was my hope to remain a loyal Honda customer. My confidence in the car and company has been shaken, and in good faith, I'm not able to recommend Honda to friends and collegues.
 
The Honda rep recommended replacing the engine (which will likely take another week). He said the car would be "good as new." Maybe so, but I'm still spooked about this car. Too many issues on a new vehicle...
 
At the very least, I'm going to press American Honda to provide an extended Honda Care warranty gratis, for my troubles. The Honda rep said that would be on table for discussion, but that their first priority was getting my vehicle back in service.
 
Will update...
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Re: New 06 Pilot is Dead [ettamarna] by fapel
Dec 30, 2005 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: ettamarna (Dec 30, 2005 6:40 am)

Thank you for your post. I am about to purchase a 2006 EX-L RES (literally within days), but I'm a bit concerned about Honda's response to your request for a new vehicle. Having worked in an auto shop for many years, I can assure you that replacing the engine parts will NOT make the car "as good as new". I personally would find this totally unacceptable! Also, when you go to trade/sell it, it will be worth less simply because it has a major engine work put in it. I know I'd be wary of buying it. I'm not sure how hard you pressed them or how high up you went, but you can let them know that there is at least one person you know seriously reconsidering their purchase. The only reason I buy a honda (over Ford, or Toyota, or whatever) is their attention to quality. That includes fixing their mistakes completely to the customer's satisfaction. I'm not telling you what to do, but there is no way I'd be satisfied with a new (a 2 month old vehicle is NEW!) vehicle needing major repairs.
 
Hope everything works out for you. Keep up on posting your experiences here, I'll be watching to see what happens next.
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Child safety seats 06 pilot by brihaga
Dec 30, 2005 (11:14 am)
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Does anyone have a infant (rear facing) seat that will fit in the 2nd row seat and allow the front seat to come back to accomodate a 6 foot passenger? 06 pilot, leather. Seat was on left, moved it to right side but the front seat passenger is really cramped (5 foot 6 wife with knees in dash). Thinking of putting it in the middle, but it might hit both seats. Any thoughts? NO LATCH IN MIDDLE. Maybe someone has a brand seat that fits better......
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Re: Audio input for use of MP3 Player? [hkeiner] by brihaga
Dec 30, 2005 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: hkeiner (Sep 14, 2005 11:54 am)

Did you find out if there is a neat way to play the ipod? Just purchased 06 pilot exl/nav. Also, will nav dvd player under seat play a DVD? Curious.
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Re: New 06 Pilot is Dead [fapel] by markjenn
Dec 30, 2005 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: fapel (Dec 30, 2005 10:43 am)

Yes, keep us in the loop on this.
 
I do think there are two sides to these issues. A small percentage of even the most reliable cars are going to have major problems, and Honda is meeting it's obligations under the warranty. I don't think Honda is behaving any differently than any other mfg - I have not heard of a car company simply replacing a vehicle in this situation.
 
I also think there is a good chance the car will be "good as new" if the work is performed competently. While there might be a slight resale hit if the car was sold in the near term, it won't be much of a factor once the car has 50K miles of good service - I certainly wouldn't hesitate to buy a new car that had it's engine replaced early in it's life if it has a good service record following the repair.
 
It does sound like Honda is willing to go with a free extended warranty. If you have a warranty to 120K miles on the new engine, that seems like a fairly good assurance that any problems with the engine will be Honda's problems, not yours, for as long as you own the car.
 
I know it is attractive to think the a car company should just step in and provide a new car whenever an owner has a major problem with a recently purchased vehicle. But if all the car mfgs did this, they'd have to raise the price of cars accordingly and we'd all pay, one way or the other. It's a zero-sum game.
 
Like I said, two sides to this issue. Good luck getting satisfactory resolution regardless.
 
- Mark
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Re: Child safety seats 06 pilot [brihaga] by steroid
Dec 30, 2005 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: brihaga (Dec 30, 2005 11:14 am)

We have Evenflo Titan 5 rear facing infant seat, which also converts to a toddler seat. It fits well in the middle. There are latches you can use for securing the seat in the middle of 2nd row. That is also the safest place to put a child seat (see Honda manual, seat manufacturer, consumer reports etc.). We have used it behind the driver seat and I was relatively comfortable (I'm 5'9"), though I usually sit closer to the steering wheel when I drive. I don't think Evenflo produces titan5 anymore, but their other convertible seats look essentially identical in size, so you may want to try a couple in your car. Good luck and let us know if you find a better fit (can use the info for the second child in the future!!).

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