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Replying to: markjenn (Dec 09, 2005 10:35 am) Transmissions Prompt Large Honda Recall 04/15/04 Christopher Jensen Plain Dealer Auto Editor Honda is recalling about 600,000 of its popular sport utilities and minivans in the U.S. and Canada because the automatic transmissions may fail, the automaker announced Wednesday. The five-speed transmissions made in Russells Point, Ohio, near Marysville are used in some 2002, 2003 and early 2004 Honda Odyssey minivans as well as 2003 and early 2004 Honda Pilot sport utilities. Also covered are 2001 and 2002 Acura MDX sport utilities. This is the second major problem Honda has experienced with its transmissions. In September 2002 the automaker announced it was extending the warranty on the five-speed automatic transmission on certain 1.2 million Honda and Acura cars to seven years or 100,000 miles. Honda decided to recall the transmissions - at an estimated cost of $153 million - after finding 10 transmission failures, Honda spokesman Chuck Schifsky said. "The reasoning is that we want to look at every problem and take it seriously," he said. He said all the failures occurred in vehicles with more than 60,000 miles. But the problem may be larger. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration consumer complaint section has at least three dozen complaints about various transmission problems on the Odyssey and MDX. "Early transmission failure seems to be a problem with this car. Dealer knew immediately what was wrong," wrote one consumer. Schifsky said those miscellaneous complaints did not play a role in Honda's decision. "Other automakers should follow Honda's lead and recall rather than stonewall," said Clarence Ditlow, director of the Center for Auto Safety in Washington, D.C. "It is refreshing to see an automaker take responsibility for a defect." Owners will be notified by mail if their vehicles are affected, and there will be no charge. Dealers will inspect the transmissions - which should not require disassembly - and make a "modification to increase the flow of transmission fluid," Honda said. If there is evidence of damage, the transmission will be replaced. If the transmission is damaged, owners would probably notice extra noise. In rare instances the transmission could fail and lock up, "creating a potential safety hazard," Honda said. Of the 10 transmission failures Honda examined, "several" locked up, Schifsky said. Schifsky said there is no plan for an extended warranty because Honda is confident it can fix the problem. If Honda's dealerships can handle the work without inconveniencing customers and the problem doesn't result in any injuries, Honda's solid reputation should not be damaged, said John Tews, a spokesman for J.D. Power and Associates, the market research firm.
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I'd take Honda's reponse to this problem as a good thing. Toyota makes some fine cars and might have a slight relability nod over the Pilot. If I were going off-road and/or doing much heavy towing, I'd probably go with a V8 4Runner over the Pilot. But the Pilot is the much better people-hauler (especially if you have more than 4 in the car), bigger, quieter, smoother, and an easy $4K cheaper with comparable equipment. So you pays your money and makes your compromises. - Mark |
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| Am the proud new owner of a 2006 Honda Pilot Ex-L (2wd, leather, navi, etc.). I must say it's clearly the best buy in the marketplace. Quality is superior, features are extensive, control interface is really great - if you put a gun to my head and insisted on something negative I'd have to say that I'm less than happy with the shift mechanism. It takes some getting used to, and even then it is difficult to shift down into a lower gear if you want to use engine braking. But that is clearly not a major issue and with that small exception I couldn't be happier with the vehicle. I looked at X-5s, X-3s, Highlanders, 4-Runners, Explorers (I own a 1997 Ford Explorer and have been very pleased with it) and none of them measured up to the value provided by the Pilot. | |
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Replying to: mbt1 (Dec 09, 2005 10:52 am) I think Honda AND toyota products have less chance of major mechanical issues than many of the other cars available for purchasing. My wife owned a 95 Oddessy and I had a 95 Accord. My wife traded in her 85k Oddessy (sorry re: spelling) and I sold my 141k Accord. Prior to these purchases, she drove a 78 Honda Accord, with no problems until our daughte totaled it out one night. Then she purchased a Toyota, and I purchased a Toyota. Never had problems with these vehicles and we have not experience ANY mechanical issues during our ownership of the 95 vintage cars. This is not to say others did not, however, Honda and Toyota products have served us needs very well. My wife now drives a 06 Pilot EXL with nav. and loves her car. Last year I sold my Accord and purchased a Lexus rx330. Wonderful car for what I wanted. My wife also drove the Toyota Highlander however, she preferred the Pilot. One difference I find between the Pilot and the Lexus is the quality of the "bells and whistles" of the two. But then the Lexus cost was much greater. We feel fortunate in selecting Honda and Toyota products, however, we had to learn the hard way via ownership of Chevys, Fords, and Chrysler products. Good luck in your quest for a new car and best wishes for a peaceful holiday season. Good luck to all and stay safe. jensad P.S. I DO NOT work for or do I have any connection with Toyota and/or Honda. |
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Replying to: mbt1 (Dec 09, 2005 10:52 am) The '06 Pilot is a fantastic and versatile vehicle unmatched in many areas. It has a top safety rating, as well as the excellent (for the most part, of course) reliability rating. It has an available navigation voice-command system that is unmatched by almost any car in the world at any price! It seats eight with fold-flat split rear seats, has the absolute best interior organization for "stuff", drives very comfortably with great determination and power, has avaialble 4WD, and the list goes on. It does all this at an amazingly low price when you compare it to all others, and gets reasonable gas mileage on regular gas. If you KNOW you intend to keep it for the long haul, and are concerned about repairs, buy the factory extended warranty and you will be covered without concerns for a long time. Buy the '06 Pilot, and don't look back. You won't regret it. |
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Has anyone driven their 06 far enough to have the reminder system recommend an oil change? If so, what mileage did this occur at? Thanks, - Mark |
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Replying to: mldj98 (Dec 08, 2005 9:53 am) Actually I got a call from my dealer and with my lease it was better to get into an 06 for less a month. I had only 22000+ miles on it and I was paying for 15000 miles a year and not using what I was paying for. For what ever reason it was less a month to go into the 06. The one catch is the 06 in now leased for 42 months not 36. My main concern is the monthly payment and with the 06 it is less. Like I said before the 06 is much improved over the 04. The XM radio trial period is nice. I enjoy getting the BBC World Service etc. One more thing. The dealer actually bought the vehicle. It seems the demand for fairly new used Pilots are in demand. Cheers |
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I'm about to buy 2006 model, preferably EX-L. I have personally experienced pronounced noise level in the prior model – 2004 model year IIRC. I wonder if Honda has made any specific improvements in this area for the 2006 model. Also, is there any website that provides noise level in decibels at different speed level for the 2006 model? Would appreciate reply. Thank you.
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Replying to: onlysurfer (Dec 13, 2005 2:33 pm) Best solution . . . DRIVE the '06 for a long test drive! |
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