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I Thought by jchan2
Jul 16, 2005 (3:32 am)
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The IRS closed the tax loophole for large SUVs...
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Re: I Thought [jchan2] by ops1
Jul 16, 2005 (5:52 am)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Jul 16, 2005 3:32 am)

You can no longer deduct up to $102K of the purchase price of an SUV used in your business - the 179 deduction is limited to $25K.
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Re: 2006 Honda Pilot Spy Shots [ops1] by vrm
Jul 20, 2005 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: ops1 (Jul 15, 2005 12:12 pm)

The 2005 Pilot has a GVWR of 5,954 lbs which means it won't qualify for certain tax treatment (must be 6,000 lbs)
 
Mike:
You have the incorrect GVWR. If the Pilot were this heavy, the gas mileage would be 15 mpg!
 
All the manufacturers are making efforts to *reduce* the weight of the vehicle. This results in immediate payback in the form of improved gas mileage.
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Re: '05 & '06 Honda Pilot GVWR [vrm] & [ops1] by mike_belknap
Jul 20, 2005 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: vrm (Jul 20, 2005 12:10 pm)

Well, I was only replying to ops1's post -- I assumed the number to be correct and actually didn't estimate the GVWR.
 
The Pilot EX's curb weight is 4431 lbs and the max load capacity is 1320 lbs, so the vehicle achieves a GVWR of only 5751 lbs, not 5954.
 
So anyway, armed with this knowledge, I think that one can safely say that it's unrealistic to assume that the '06 Pilot will be meeting the 6000-lb minimum. Sorry, ops1: even if the tax break is still in place, 249 lbs is just too much weight IMHO.
 
Mike
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Re: '05 & '06 Honda Pilot GVWR [vrm] & [ops1] [mike_belknap] by ops1
Jul 20, 2005 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: mike_belknap (Jul 20, 2005 12:59 pm)

You don't have to estimate it - the GVWR is on the sticker on the side of the driver door (to be honest, I don't know how it is calculated). It is listed on several sites (yahoo.autos and autoweb, among others) as 5,954 lbs. Anyone with a 2005, please chime in!
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Re: I Thought [ops1] by jchan2
Jul 20, 2005 (6:33 pm)
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Replying to: ops1 (Jul 16, 2005 5:52 am)

Well then why not just buy a regular car instead (say, a Toyota Camry) since the 179 deduction for a regular car (like a Camry LE 4 Cylinder) is $20,000ish...
 
I'm sure a Toyota Camry LE 4 Cylinder gets much better gas mileage than a Lexus LX470...
 
I'd rather give up $5000 in deductions and get better fuel economy instead...
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Re: I Thought [jchan2] by ops1
Jul 21, 2005 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Jul 20, 2005 6:33 pm)

I agree with you in part, but the difference in deductions is far greater than $5,000 because you can't deduct $20,000 under 179 for a car. The difference in tax treatment is startling, wrong and unfair but not something you can change (it is even more absurd compared to the minimal tax benefits associated with hybrids).
 
I need a vehicle with more seating and have decided to get an SUV (I will probably keep my 4 cylinder Camry for personal use). As far as fuel economy is concerned, the Pilot seems to get better mileage than most 7 or 8 seat SUVs.
 
I don't mean to get too far off topic, but if the 2006 Pilot has the 6,000 lbs rating and qualifies for the deduction (which I will double-check with my accountant before buying), then the Pilot definitely moves up to first on my list.
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Spy Shot by gatrhumpy
Jul 21, 2005 (5:52 am)
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From the looks of the spy shot, the Pilot might get XM radio and side markers that coincide with the blinkers. I can barely make out a little body-colored antenna (I.e. like the one in the 2004-2005 Accord EX with leather and EX V6). Also, from the looks of it, the headrests have not changed. I can still see light in the center of the headrest. I don't know if this will be the exact vehicle that Honda will produce, but if it is, the headrests won't change from the current vehicle.
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2006 Pilot 2WD by ops1
Jul 21, 2005 (6:29 am)
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collegehillshonda.com has listed its orders for 2006 Pilots, and it includes an LX 2WD.
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Info 2006 Honda Pilot by ru4real
Jul 22, 2005 (6:53 am)
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I am just wondering if they are adding any new colors to the Pilot line and if it is worth the wait for the 2006.

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