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Re: VCM: does it make much of a difference in gas mileage? [pup975]
by qbrozen
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Jul 08, 2005 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: pup975 (Jul 08, 2005 8:07 am)
Well, time will tell, but I honestly think the 2WD model is not going to do much better than AWD due to the fact that the AWD Pilot only runs AWD when it finds it necessary. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 90-95% of the time, its operating in FWD only mode. SO, I'm anticipating somewhere in the neighborhood of a 2 mpg increase in economy (mostly due to the decreased weight). In my opinion, the gas savings would not make up for the money lost at resale time (depending on the initial cost difference - but this assertion is based on your assumption that you can get an AWD now for the same as a FWD later ... in which case I think the AWD will be worth MORE later).
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- #22 of 1334
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Re: VCM: does it make much of a difference in gas mileage? [pup975]
by durability05
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Jul 08, 2005 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: pup975 (Jul 08, 2005 8:07 am)
By going 2WD, the savings would be probably between $2K to $3K over a 4WD Pilot, I think you will be able to get an "06" 2WD Pilot for less money than a "05" Pilot 4WD. I bought an April 04 Pilot EXL for $1500 above invoice. My sister bought a Dec. 04 "05 Pilot EX" for $500 above invoice, a much bigger savings and it was only 2 months into the new model year, somehow suddenly Pilot prices here in Southern California took a nose dive when the "05" came out. The SUV market is now soft, and will continue to be soft for a long time
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- #23 of 1334
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Michelin® PAX®
by zen76
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Jul 09, 2005 (1:37 pm)
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Any idea if we are going to get Michelin® PAX® on Pilot too. I would love to drive a car that can do 50mph on a Flat Tyre...
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- #24 of 1334
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Re: Michelin® PAX® [zen76]
by sportymonk
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Jul 10, 2005 (4:04 pm)
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Replying to: zen76 (Jul 09, 2005 1:37 pm)
You might want to read the Ody board for some of the concerns on the PAX tires. Unlike the Toyota run flats, the Michelins are a very unique size that means you cannot substitute another tire in an emergency. Also, the PAX tires are only capable of going so far at a certain speed. Some on vacations have been stranded by a flat on Friday night. Whereas with a regular tire, you could get another tire on Saturday, with a PAX, you are stuck until the nearest honda or Michelin dealer opens and then you better hope they have a PAX tire. Supposedly, all Honda dealers have ONE PAX in a box already mounted on a wheel (since it requires special and expensive equipment to mount PAX tires) waiting for somebody to come in.
Frankly, I wouldn't have a vehicle with a PAX on it until they are more widely used. BTW remember that the Odys with PAX have no spare so when you hit the mileage limit of the PAX after it is flat, you are stuck.
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Any news on Hybrid Pilot ?
by aaj_honda
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Jul 11, 2005 (8:44 am)
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Does any one know when will Pilot go Hybrid ? Would love to see the increase in fuel economy ... What I am waiting for is..
Hybrid
DVD + Navigation System in same Pilot
XM Satellite radio
Wireless connectivity..
When will this happen ?
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images?
by nowakj66
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Jul 13, 2005 (6:13 am)
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Suprised we have not seen any spy shots of the '06 Pilot. Did I miss them?
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- #27 of 1334
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Re: images? [nowakj66]
by qbrozen
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Jul 13, 2005 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: nowakj66 (Jul 13, 2005 6:13 am)
just look at pics of the '03-'05.
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- #28 of 1334
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Re: images? [qbrozen]
by nowakj66
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Jul 13, 2005 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 13, 2005 6:56 am)
I thought this was the year of the mid model refresh for the Pilot and there are to be some interior and exterior styling changes rumored as well as 2WD models to go alongside the 4WD.
I am hoping it looks a bit more like the Ridgeline in the grill and headlights and interior.
At latest we will know in September '05 when the '06 models come out.
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Re: images? [nowakj66]
by qbrozen
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Jul 13, 2005 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: nowakj66 (Jul 13, 2005 7:11 am)
I'm not familiar with Honda's history, but is it normal for them to change the styling after just 3 model years? Seems excessive to me, but what the heck do i know?
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Re: images? [qbrozen]
by nowakj66
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Jul 13, 2005 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 13, 2005 8:37 am)
It probably will not be a radical change. But Honda has a well known pattern of 5 years for each model with a large-sh styling and sometimes added feature change in year 4 and 5. The changes are often limited to headlight, tail light design but sometimes extend to new drive trains, horsepower bumps, audio features, etc.
If you think about the current iteration of the Civic, you can see the pattern pretty clearly.
Since this is year 4 of 5 for the Pilot, a change of some sort is expected.
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