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Used Cayman S or a new 370Z by mannyljr
Mar 10, 2009 (8:10 pm)
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I'm going to post this on a couple forums here that fit the question. I've been shopping for a new car particurally a Porsche. I wrote a blog about, want to see it, here it is. http://mannyljr.typepad.com/lizardslair/
 
Anyway, while my first "love" was a Boxster, I then switched to Cayman for overall better experience, in my mind. Though the longer I read about the engine issues along with the high yearly maintenace costs. My desire seemed to waiver. Then the Nissan 370Z came out, along with a first direct comparo, http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=10&article_id=7659
 
Albeight, it was a 2008 Cayman S against a new Z, but it was fairly done and even though Cayman came in first on most points, the Z was close behind. A new '09 Z with Touring and the Sport Package costs around $38K. If you configured a new Cayman S with the same options, you'd get a car over $70K!
 
Now, I'm not looking, nor could I afford a $70K car, but the Z has so much going for it at almost half the price. I have to pay attention. My real dilemma is between a 2007 Cayman S or a new 2009 Nissan 370Z.
 
When I take into the cost of depreciation, yearly maintenace, and insurance costs, what is the better deal? I normally keep my cars a long time. My current "fleet" is my daily driver, 2004 RX-8 Grand Touring, 73K miles, runs and handles great, like new, but I'm wanting more oooomph!. There's the "family" car, 2007 Mazda CX-7, turbo 4 with Nav, 35K miles, the "utility" car, 1999 Honda Civic EX sedan, 140K miles, runs like a champ, and my "beater/project car", 1985 Mazda RX-7, GSL-SE, original owner, 170K fun miles.
 
I want a car that will either be my main driver for the next 5+ years, so I want/need something to be a daily driver. Keeping maintenance costs reasonable. Allowing some never done, but really want to do autocross and track time.
 
Thanks for reading my long post. I appreciate your comments and suggestions.
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Re: Used Cayman S or a new 370Z [mannyljr] by kmans
Mar 11, 2009 (4:08 am)
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Replying to: mannyljr (Mar 10, 2009 8:10 pm)

I don't think you are comparing apples to oranges. You can get a practically new 2007 Cayman S for around the same price as a 2009 Nissan 370Z and the Cayman S is a much better all around car. You should really drive them both, magazine articles are often misleading and often prompted by some manufacturers advertising spend with that magazine. I am also not sure what you mean by high yearly maintenance costs for the Cayman, it only requires an oil change every 15K-20K miles at about $200 a change if you do it at your dealer, compare that to every 3K miles in the Z andyou are talking 5-6 oil changes in the Z for every one in the Cayman. There are no engine problems with the Cayman for regularly driven street cars, the only engine problems reported have been from high amounts of track use in high stress situations. I can guarantee you that the Z will have its own share of problems in the same scenarios, so again you need to try to compare apples to apples. Go drive both and see what you like best that is the only way to know for sure which car is right for you. PlanetPorsche.Net can help you with Cayman items.
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Re: Used Cayman S or a new 370Z [mannyljr] by clembo
Mar 14, 2009 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: mannyljr (Mar 10, 2009 8:10 pm)

I agree with Kman, you need to look a bit deeper. Go drive a Cayman if you haven't yet then decide. It is probably the best balanced car on the road at any price.
 
I don't know about your financial situation but I don't think that I'd want either car as my everyday driver. If you can pick up a used Accord or something else for the bad weather and to give yourself a break from a small car now and again I would do so.
 
End of the day both are great cars. Although as you read in the comparo the performance numbers are close, they are not really in the same league. I have had my Cayman S for 3 years and it is the most fun you can have outside of the bedroom.
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2009 vs 2008 Cayman S by dhsieh9
Apr 09, 2009 (2:29 pm)
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After seeing the new 2009 Cayman S with PDK double clutch & 25 extra horses, my heart sank to bottom since I bought a 2008 model last year. I thought I did all the research needed before buying it and I was totally wrong. Who would know what new improvements Porsche have in their sleeve every year?
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Re: 2009 vs 2008 Cayman S [dhsieh9] by kmans
Apr 09, 2009 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: dhsieh9 (Apr 09, 2009 2:29 pm)

There is a site on the web where you can find a Club of Cayman people who can tell you what Porsche has up their sleeve and prevent you from buying something you don't want to buy. Well at least they can make good recommendations. All you need to do is Google search for the site (not allowed to post link here). Now with respect to your 2008, it is still a wonderful car, enjoy it and don't worry about what comes out after, heck I'm still loving my 2006!
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Re: 2009 vs 2008 Cayman S [kmans] by dhsieh9
Apr 09, 2009 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: kmans (Apr 09, 2009 2:42 pm)

Well, I still enjoy driving my 08' Cayman S every time. Maybe I can take comfort in that new changes typically take one or two iterations before car companies fix the teething problems. I hope my 08' Tiptronic will work flawlessly for a long time ..
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Re: 2009 vs 2008 Cayman S [dhsieh9] by buffyjames
May 28, 2009 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: dhsieh9 (Apr 09, 2009 2:29 pm)

You should feel pleased that you have a 2008 Cayman. The 2009's with DFI have serious problems with carboning. I understand that the problem is so bad that severe damage occurs...not covered by Porsche of coarse.
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Re: 2009 vs 2008 Cayman S [buffyjames] by dhsieh9
May 28, 2009 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: buffyjames (May 28, 2009 7:21 am)

I haven't followed up with the development of 09' Cayman new feature problems, such as DFI carboning. Curiously, double clutch is a rather new technology that has only been made available by auto manufacturers in the last 2 years, including Porsche. It is certainly reasonable for these technologies to go through teething and maturity cycle. However, DFI has been around much longer and it begs the question why Porsche has such a difficulty in making it reliable?
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2008 Cayman S rear rattling noise by dhsieh9
Jul 06, 2009 (1:30 pm)
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My Cayman has now accumulated 4k+ miles. One annoying area I have constant experienced is its subtle but audible rear rattling noise. The dealer tried almost everything in their book, such as replacing rear light assembly and removing the plastic luggage cover (a real flimsy piece in my opinion). Nonetheless, the noise continues when driving on rough surface. Finally the Porsche district representative told me that it is common for all Porsche models to exhibit such a noise due to their stiff suspension. He asked me not to seek warranty repair again. Even more ridiculously, the rep said that this is disclosed in their warranty policy. I can't believe what I heard from the rep and I can't find any disclosure from their warranty booklet. I wonder if there is any current Cayman owner who may have encountered such an experience with their cars?
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Re: 2008 Cayman S rear rattling noise [dhsieh9] by kmans
Jul 06, 2009 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: dhsieh9 (Jul 06, 2009 1:30 pm)

This response from your district rep is a crock and shameful. Have you tried calling PCNA HQ directly with this problem? There are a number of things that can cause rattles in the hatch, including a recall on a hatch "thunk" problem. Has that recall be performed on your car?
 
Let me know if I can help further.
Sincerely,
Ken
K-Man S
www.planetporsche.net

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