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Re: CS [chander] by fedlawman
Dec 01, 2006 (9:15 pm)
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Replying to: chander (Dec 01, 2006 8:02 pm)

The Porsche is a nimble, 3000#, 2-seat sports coupe. The BMW and Audi are...not.
 
All very appealing cars, but in very different ways.
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Re: CS [chander] by habitat1
Dec 02, 2006 (4:42 am)
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Replying to: chander (Dec 01, 2006 8:02 pm)

Boy, there really must be a shortage of Prozac at the pharmacy.
 
Cross shopping a 2-seat sports car with a 4,000 lb 5- passenger sport sedan and a AWD compact sedan. Any reason you didn't throw in any of the other 200 or so sports cars, coupes, sedans and crossovers?
 
Seriously, there is no comparison. The 550i 6-speed would be on the top of my list if my Acura TL got hit by a bus. The Cayman S could be on the top of my list is 8-10 years when my kids are in college and it's time to replace my 911. The S4 is not on any of my lists - I'd take the RWD lighter, nimbler M3 if I were looking in that segment, but I'm not.
 
I will say I have no idea what a CS is, but I suspect it fits in with this group about as well as the other three. You need to do some needs/preferences assessments before you pull out your checkbook. Or try to test drive the other 197 cars that fall within the segments you identified.
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Re: CS [habitat1] by carnaught
Dec 02, 2006 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 02, 2006 4:42 am)

I will say I have no idea what a CS is, but I suspect it fits in with this group about as well as the other three.
 
CS = Cayman S
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Re: CS [carnaught] by chander
Dec 02, 2006 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: carnaught (Dec 02, 2006 7:35 am)

I was sold on the CaymanS re performance,but was not sure if I could use as a daily commuter and looked at other driver's cars.Hope I did not offend the purists.
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Re: CS [chander] by habitat1
Dec 02, 2006 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: chander (Dec 02, 2006 11:46 am)

"I was sold on the CaymanS re performance,but was not sure if I could use as a daily commuter and looked at other driver's cars. Hope I did not offend the purists."
 
I'm certainly not "pure" enough to be offended and had you phrased your question with that qualifier (use as a daily driver) I would have withheld the Prozac comment.
 
In the past 14 months, I've put 11,500 miles on my 911S and under 3,000 miles on my Acura TL. And most of the Acura miles were out of feeling guilty seeing it sit there. Thanks to PASM, the 911S on "normal" suspension setting is pretty street friendly. If you have to deal with snow, that will require winter wheels/tires. I think the Cayman would make a great commuter car.
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Porsche values overseas by amhjms
Dec 04, 2006 (12:15 pm)
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Interesting comment about signing something saying you won't move your Porsche outside the US. Do recall what the consequences were? You'd have to give back the car I suppose (ha)? I recently moved from Oregon to The Netherlands. I brought my 2000 Boxster with me (about 30 k miles). I figured it was worth more here. Thanks to the exchange rate it could be worth nearly double (i.e. from about $22 k to about $40 k or so, but 30% of that is from exchange rate). At the dealer I can't help but look at prices and due to taxes, etc. you could come close to paying twice. Had I known this I would have bought a brand new 911 in the US, not signed the thing about moving (or signed it "Mickey Mouse"), driven it here for a few years and made money upon selling it. Seems like there is a bit of arbitrage opportunity, although there are various restrictions that would make it hard to do regularly.
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CaymanS--911 by chander
Dec 09, 2006 (4:36 am)
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Any advise on purchase between a new CaymanS vs a low mileage 911? Regarding fun and value.
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Re: CaymanS--911 [chander] by kmans
Dec 09, 2006 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: chander (Dec 09, 2006 4:36 am)

This has been discussed many times before at the Cayman Club website but in short it really depends on what you want in a car. If you want the best handling car, fastest at the track and one with the best aural sensation go with the Cayman S. If you need miniature back seats and want the status symbol of owning the 911 go that route. Really not a bad choice between either.
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Re: CaymanS--911 [kmans] by rmdds
Dec 09, 2006 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: kmans (Dec 09, 2006 5:13 am)

Agree totally. I am close to pulling the trigger on the Cayman S. I have test-driven both a CS and a 911 C4S and have spoken about the CS being the best handling and best all-rounder Porsche there is in the mkt, but I get stares from 911 purists! Needless to say in a straight line the 911 range has more hp oomp, but for grip around the bends and overall ride pleasure, the CS is peerless. Hope I am right on this score???
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Re: CaymanS--911 [rmdds] by redsoxgirl
Dec 10, 2006 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: rmdds (Dec 09, 2006 5:21 pm)

I came out of a Boxster S (2003) and was considering both the Cayman S and 911 C2S. I have previously taken performance driving courses and will be going back to take Porsche's advanced level course next spring/summer.
 
The Cayman S is an exceptional handling car, It is intuitive - even a relative novice can get one around a track reasonably quickly after a few tries. Also, I liked the light weight - making it feel quicker in transition than it actually is. (Same is true for the Boxster S).
 
However, after driving both at a track, the 911 C2S became my choice. It is not as "intuitive" as the Cayman, but once you learn how to drive it, I found it to be quite a bit quicker around the track. The 911 and Cayman are almost neck and neck in the turns, but the 911's power difference is a significant advantage on the straights.
 
I don't think you can go wrong with either car. However, I do think the Cayman S interest has peaked. A lot of the initial interest from the press and reviewers was from the camp that has had "issues" with the 911 for decades. They thought the Boxster S was the best handling Porsche ever a couple of years ago. I'm here to claim the 911 is a great handling car - and with the 997 models standard PASM & PSM, Porsche has evolved it tremendously from what it was just 10 years ago, let alone its early days 30+/- years ago.
 
P.S. I also recommend you test the C2S rather than the C4S as a better comparison to the Cayman s. The "4" is nearly 200 lbs heavier and has approximately 3-5% less drivetrain efficiency (wheel horsepower) than the "2". The C2S is noticably quicker and IMO, feels more nimble. I've heard it claimed that in actual tests (not Porsche published numbers), the C4S and the base C2 are neck and neck in acceleration, with the C2 being better in handling on dry pavement. The C2S is a notch or two up from both. Maybe it just runs in the family. My brother, a former Porsche racing team member, prefers the RWD 997 GT3 to the AWD Turbo, at least on a track. If you are planning a lot of rain or light snow use, the "4" would make a good choice, but it wasn't mine and I live in New England.

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