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Replying to: vatvatsetho (Jul 26, 2005 10:43 pm) It wouldn't be just for the Camry, the Solara would also get it. Besides you are missing the point, the 3.0L V6 in the current GS is part of the same family as the 3.5L V6 that will be going into the GS and possibly ES & RX. I'm guessing a good part of both engines are similar, therefore the investment in the 3.0L V6 is relatively small. And putting a 3.0L V6 in just the Camry is no big deal. Think about it, Toyota sells 400K Camrys/Solara's just in the US every year, about 20% are V6 sales, therefore that's still alot of V6's they would be producing. "Also the ES is suppose to give that 'luxury' look and feel to it...not a 'sport' type of feel and look. So i think 3.5 will be with the IS and GS. " The Avalon isn't a *sport* type of car either yet it has a slightly different version of the 3.5L V6 with 280bhp. Also, the ES currently has a 3.3L V6 as it is, so I don't see them moving back in engine displacement, I only see them going up in displacement. |
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Replying to: vatvatsetho (Jul 26, 2005 10:43 pm) |
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probably wont find its way into the heavier Camry based vehicles- Sienna, HL, RX.... as the new 3.0L doesnt produce as much torque as the larger, older 3.3L. ~alpha
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Replying to: alpha01 (Jul 27, 2005 6:54 am)
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Replying to: lexi4life (Jul 27, 2005 9:34 am) |
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It make sense, Lexus use a bigger engine, than "cheaper Toyota" (I don't think Lexus will want their cars to have less power than cheaper Toyotas! (RX VS Highlander, Camry VS ES, Avalon VS ES too). Just think about that, it has no sense!) 
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I think that Toyota is only using the 3L in the GS as a stopgap for a year or so until the GS350 comes along. Ditto for the 4.3L until the GS460.
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Replying to: chris65amg (Jul 28, 2005 8:32 am) But we are talking about the Lexus ES, not the GS. It's a given that the GS300 will be replaced with the GS350 as soon as the 4.6L V8 is ready. Actually we don't even know that for a certainty. They could very well do like BMW and keep the GS300, add the GS350, then have the GS460. Back to the 3.0L V6. It makes no financial sense to design the 3.0L V6 just for one model year and really only for a few markets like the US, Canada and probably Europe. That is very light volume.
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in the Camrys, Solaras, and RAV4s, most definitely. Im only saying I dont think it produces enough torque for variations of the platform that weigh greater than 4000 lbs, at least not in today's market place. Regardless, the ES will be the ES350 out of the gates? No, I dont know this with certainty, but I cant imagine Toyota continuing to produce an older, less efficient 3.3L when the 3.5L is available and ready to go. The 3.0L, despite its 20 greater hp than the 3.3L, would be a step in the opposite direction of where the class is going... more power AND torque...(especially given that the Avalon uses it). ~alpha |
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| where gasoline is pricey, Lexus still uses the 3.0L on the ES and RX even while North America has upgraded to the 3.3L. | |
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