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2725 messages, Last post on Oct 23, 2009 at 5:24 AM
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My 08 is like that, pretty stupid. But, many interior features are pretty stupid on this model. I cite the poor interior lighting, no back seat 12V outlet, not much storage and a passthru instead of a full fold-down rear seat. Was spoiled by my 02 Audi A6, a real well designed luxury car. It also had free service to 50 K miles. Have you had a Lexus Dealer do an oil change yet. Fasten your seat belt when you get the bill. (my last one was 146 bucks) (and I mean last for them!!) But I digress For travel I use the more expensive hangers that have swivel hooks. These hook over the sissy handle just above the rear door sill. Works pretty well. Your car does have some great features too. I think mine has great mpg for the fairly powerful engine. Also, a stylish car that is quiet, smooth and very comfortable for long distance cruising. I just can't resist spouting off sometimes. (!!!) I hope the designers read our rants. Mike |
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| Has anyone purchased the updated navigation DVD for the ES350? I was wondering if not only is it worth the money but is it easier to use than the old version? If you did purchase the new DVD did you get it from the Lexus dealer or some other source? | |
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Drove one with 16K miles on it. Very nice, but really disappointed in that it was not as good as my 07 Hyundai Azera . While it did not have the bouncing/wallowing that Azera is known for, the seats were not as comfortable, nor was the overall ride. Felt most road imperfections. The engine was noisy when accelerating and the car was not as quiet overall. The audio was not as good and radio had poor reception. The paint was in very good shape, except where some nut had installed a plastic "protector" over half of the hood. Left a definite line marking where it ended. The vented seat did not cool very well, even on highest setting. Of course, it was also smaller front, rear and trunk. Really surprised at handling on interstate. Very susceptible to cross winds and draft from tractor-trailers. Couple of times at 70 wasn't sure I was in control of the car. 
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Replying to: michaelndq (May 08, 2009 5:17 pm)
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Replying to: priggly (Jun 25, 2009 11:19 pm) However, in the interests of full disclosure, I must say that I used to drive a Honda Civic before this car. I wouldn't be able to compare it with a Merc or a Cadillac, say.  Sincere Regards ateeq ahmad |
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Replying to: timwilmath (Mar 03, 2009 6:45 pm)
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Replying to: shancy (Aug 29, 2009 2:47 pm)  aol.com and I'll send you a photo with it on my car. ">Good luck! Tim. |
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Runaway Lexus kills 4! 2009-09-01 03:38:41 (GMT) San Diego, CA—A fiery crash left four people dead after the car’s accelerator became stuck. The fatal crash happened on Friday, August 28, 2009 at 6:30 p.m. at the intersection of Route 125 and Mission Gorge Road in Santee, as reported by San Diego Union Tribune. According to the California Highway Patrol (CHP), a loaner 2009 Lexus ES 350 driven by CHP Officer Mark Saylor, and three family members experienced a serious malfunction, which caused the accelerator to stick. Someone reportedly dialed 911 around 6:30 p.m. to report the cars accelerator was stuck, and the car could not be stopped while traveling nearly 100 miles per hour. The out-of-control car careened through the intersection of Route 125 and Mission Gorge Road and collided with a Ford Explorer. The Lexus then jumped a curb, plowed through a fence, and then slammed into an embankment before going airborne. The luxury car reportedly overturned several times before it came to a stop and burst into flames in the San Diego River basin. The CHP officer Mark Saylor, 45; his wife, Cleofe, 45; Saylor’s daughter, Mahala, 13; and his brother-in-law, Chris Lastrella were all tragically killed at the scene of the horrific crash. The car was reportedly loaned from Bob Baker Lexus El Cajon on Friday after Saylor dropped his car off for service. The Lexus is fully equipped with a double redundant fail-safe system, which would shut the vehicle off if it were to experience a major malfunction. No one at Bob Baker Lexus El Cajon knows what went wrong and is currently waiting for the completion of a full investigation. The CHP multidisciplinary Accident Investigation Team and Sheriff’s investigators are conducting the investigation into the runaway vehicle accident. ES350 kills 4
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This was a horrible accident and like many accidents several things in addition to a stuck accelerator must have occurred to end in such a tragedy. I suspect that since the car was a loaner the driver was unfamiliar with the controls. If this had been a normal car with a key ignition then he could have turned the key to turn off the engine; however, I own an ES350 for many years and I didn’t even know that to turn off the engine of my car while driving, I need to hold the On/Off switch for 3 seconds. Also it is common because of the irregular shift pattern on this vehicle, for new drivers to mistakenly drive in the manual shift mode. In this mode the car will still automatically shift when the RPM’s reach a high enough level; however the N for neutral is located adjacent to the up shift position when in manual shift, so if in an emergency you are unaware of this you would push the shift up to the N position but are actually up shifting the gears. As far a breaking, a coworker of mine had a Camry accelerator stick full throttle because of debris in the tube that the accelerator arm travels through and when his accelerator stuck he was unable to stop even uphill with full break force.
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