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Re: engine ear [noisylcar] by djdj
Dec 19, 2008 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: noisylcar (Dec 08, 2008 4:38 am)

I find it disappointing considering how quiet a Lexus is supposed to be. I think mine warms up faster than 10 minutes. After about 2 minutes I either forget about it or it has gone away. Once that noise is gone, I think the car is really quiet. I do wish it had about one inch more headroom though.
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Some things to think about if buying by Mike
Dec 21, 2008 (8:12 am)
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We have had our new 2008 ES350 for 6 weeks. One long trip, Fl. to NY. Used mid-grade gas, averaged 30mpg at ave. speed (on the display) of 69mph. That means we had to drive 75mph or a bit above quite a lot to average that. The travel is very comfortable, excellent equipment. This is a luxury car not a drivers car. We traded a 2002 Audi A6 Quattro. The A6 has a better suspension for high speed driving. The A6 has a better transmission control. The ES manual control is rinkydink and provides no real control of shifting. Very disappointing. This costs a couple of mpg in city driving. You can't get this thing into the higher gears. If you hammer the accelerator on the A6 you leap straight forward in a controlled manner. Not so w/the ES. Torque steer is quite a handfull. The guages are about the same as you will find on a 4 cyl. $16K econobox. (but much prettier) The A6 has lots of system info. Of course the A6 ride is stiffer, with less body roll in tight corners. The cupholder for the drive is difficult to use when driving. Poor placement. Interior lighting is pretty but not functional. Very poor lighting. The ES trunk is poorly shaped compared to the deep and square sided A6 and hard to pack efficiently. The A6 had free maintenance to 50K miles then, 50 dollar deductable on repairs to 100K miles. (96K miles with no repairs except 2 headlights) Excellent! Lexus is going to rock my world with maint. expense.
 
OK, the ES has opportunities. BUT...it is a beautiful car that is nice to travel in. The seat adjustments, steering wheel adjustments, headlight control and keyfob starting system are all very nice features. I am looking forward to enjoying this car. We have a Corvette and Nissan 4 wheel drive truck, so my driver issues may be satisfied with them. If you are buying an ES think about what you want. It is pleasant to the eye, powerful, comfortable and fuel efficient.
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Re: Some things to think about if buying [Mike] by lexpaul
Dec 21, 2008 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: Mike (Dec 21, 2008 8:12 am)

Mike,
 
You sound like you are a true 'drivers' kinda guy...sports car fan...A lot of negatives and IMO I would have not forked over the cash to the get this car....I would have stayed in the Audi column...or some other stiff/sports brand...but hey if you're throwing away money throw some my way.....
 
The ES is NOT a drivers car as you are now so painfully aware of, I think a test drive AND some elementary research online...would have revealed this to you. So beware all you 'sporty' types....Can't understand why those who prefer the EURO or sports brands go with the ES, disappointement is generally the result...too bad...so sad.... The few little positives you mentioned.... perhaps you would be better off parking it and admiring how good looks it in the shade...
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Re: Lexus ES350 maintenance cost / servicing cost [johnymack] by barnwal
Jan 12, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: johnymack (Jul 17, 2008 11:48 am)

Dear Johnymack,
I own ES 350 as well and is 1 year old. Good to read your remarks in avoiding the servicing cost. Last time I went for 100 miles servicing and Lexus Hartford, CT charged me $197. Felt like getting ripped off as I knew apart from changing oil, rotating the tiers and a good wash, nothing else was done.
 
So again my service is due for for 15K and called Lexus to find out this time the service charge is going to be $290. Crazy. Reading the service manual nothing else other than Oil and Filter, Tier Rotation is due. Don't understand why these guys have to fool us with this kind of service charge.
 
Called Firestone and Auto care service station and you are right. Probably I'll get the oil and filter change done under $70 for sure.
 
Lexus Service center is 65 miles from my place so can't afford to go over there.
 
Cheers,
Sanjay
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Re: Lexus ES350 maintenance cost / servicing cost [barnwal] by sanish
Jan 12, 2009 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: barnwal (Jan 12, 2009 8:19 am)

15,000 mile
Oil/Filter change:$55
Discount:10%
Tax, Disposal fees, etc:$5
Tire Rotation:$0 (Discount Tires)
Car Wash:$0
Total:$55
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Re: Lexus ES350 maintenance cost / servicing cost [barnwal] by klee3
Jan 23, 2009 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: barnwal (Jan 12, 2009 8:19 am)

You've got to be kidding. $197 for 10,000 mile service and $297 for 15,000 mile service? Mine has 9k miles now. I'm not looking forward to getting ripped off. I had a 2004 Acura TL which required service (oil change) every ~7500 miles (depending on the indicator). It only cost me $29.99 for an oil change and about $250 for 30k mile service. Boy, do I regret trading in the TL for ES 350?!? This is ridiculous!
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Re: Lexus ES350 maintenance cost / servicing cost [sanish] by Mike
Feb 04, 2009 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: sanish (Jan 12, 2009 1:29 pm)

Was that a charge from the Lexus dealer? Yesterday I did my 20K scheduled maintenance on our new ES350. Just an oil change and tire rotation. (presume lube) Price - 148 dollars. This is a joke and I will avoid the dealer at all costs in the future. Also, I long for my 2002 Audi A6 with free scheduled maint. to 50K.
 
Of course after that, they wanted close to 60 dollars for an oil change. That too, is pretty bad. The local Midas shop in Binghamton, NY gets my oil change business on my Corvette and Nissan truck. They treat me fairly and only my vette with Mobil One approaches 60 bucks for oil and lube.
 
I say keep good records of your service to preserve the Lexus warranty but, never use the lexus dealer! Any thoughts on this approach?
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Re: Lexus ES350 maintenance cost / servicing cost [Mike] by jimbres
Feb 06, 2009 (4:07 am)
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Replying to: Mike (Feb 04, 2009 6:48 am)

I say keep good records of your service to preserve the Lexus warranty but, never use the lexus dealer!
 
We took this approach with my wife's 1st Lexus, a '99 ES 300, & we're doing it again with her '07 ES 350. It's both cheaper & more convenient. We have an excellent independent mechanic less than a mile from our house, so I can drop off her car & walk home. The dealer is 15 miles away.
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Re: Lexus ES350 maintenance cost / servicing cost [jimbres] by Mike
Feb 06, 2009 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Feb 06, 2009 4:07 am)

Thanks for the reply. One of the reasons we went with Lexus was that we think the car will have few problems. Hope that is the case. But, if there was a warranty issue, we would hate to hear that the scheduled maint. was not executed properly.
Thanks for your input.
Mike
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Re: engine noise by danl
Feb 06, 2009 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: djdj (Dec 06, 2008 2:20 pm)

I've ask the service rep several times, the noise comes from the timing chain. Previous lexus had a belt, it was always quiet but required replacement at 90k. The chain never needs replacement. Our 07 es350 has 27k on it, tonight it clattered when started with air temp of 66 degrees. It is very irritating.Service rep says the clatter is typical for cold engine. I don't like it one bit, how many others are complaining about this to lexus?

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