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Re: $239.88 for an oil change !! [jaspalb]
by zhiminwen
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Oct 15, 2007 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: jaspalb (Oct 14, 2007 5:00 pm)
My last 10k service was $132. I went there because of a minor warranty issue. Otherwise I would have gone to a Toyota dealer for an Express Lube oil change and tire rotation. Lexus dealers charge these high fees based on the highly inflated hourly rate (> $100/hour) of their technicians and the time it takes the technician to do all the so-called checks. Per ES350 maintenance schedule, for 5k and 10k, the only required service are oil change and tire rotation. Only for driving in dusty condition, some checks (brake pads, CV boots, steering, suspention, ...) are required. Even for 15k, the real service (requires change /replace) are still just oil change and tire rotation.
For my last 10k service, the invoice says they did all those checks, but for $132, they didn't top off windshield fluid, didn't adjust tire pressure to specs, and didn't install engine cover bolts back properly. Obviously I don't plan to use this dealer again. For cross- reference, my Acura dealer charges $32 for an oil change on my MDX, that also includes a car wash, top-off all fluids, inflate tire pressure and check CV boots and battery. Lexus dealers are quite bit more expensive than Acura's.
This is just my humble opinion. If your car drives normally, there is need for these checks every 5k/6m. So I would just do oil change and tire rotation at Toyota dealer. Or you could go to Lexus dealer but request only this simple service. 15k is a close call. Go to a Lexus dealer if it makes you feel better that the technician performs these checks (assume he actually does do them). I would go to a Lexus dealer for 30k service (if not for anything else, to maintain a relationship with a dealer).
BTW, Toyota dealers can also do 15l/30k services. The only things they can not do are warranty work.
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Re: $239.88 for an oil change !! [zhiminwen]
by jaspalb
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Oct 15, 2007 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: zhiminwen (Oct 15, 2007 10:18 am)
I drive on major highways only, and very rarely take my car out even when it is raining. Among several so called services, one of them was "battery service", but I found they did not even clean the battry top. When asked, they told they just check the terminals. I don't know what they did for $239. Oil was spilled all over the engine cover. Don't know if they adjusted tire pressures, etc. Next time I am not going to them either.
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- #2594 of 2727
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Re: $239.88 for an oil change !! [jaspalb]
by larrymit
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Oct 16, 2007 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: jaspalb (Oct 14, 2007 5:00 pm)
My Lexus dealer throws in a car wash and a loaner car while the service is being performed. Even so, with synthetic blend oil, they still only charge about $140.00 for oil change, lube, and tire rotation. I go to my local mechanic, who uses the same oil and charges about $100.00. Still high, but 6.5 quarts of that synthetic blend oil is pretty pricy.
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Re: $239.88 for an oil change !! [larrymit]
by jaspalb
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Oct 16, 2007 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: larrymit (Oct 16, 2007 5:25 am)
I don't know what oil they use, but I had a car wash too (which I didn't like). I was asked for a loner, which I didn't need (I waited instead). I don't know what is $239 for? Anyway, next time I am going to check before I leave my car with the dealer.
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- #2596 of 2727
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Gearshift Creaking
by rh350
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Oct 23, 2007 (7:06 pm)
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Just curious as to whether anyone has experienced an intermittent creaking around the gear shift area.
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Re: Love/Hate [kickthebox]
by jano2
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Oct 29, 2007 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: kickthebox (Sep 14, 2007 1:48 pm)
I have only had my car for about 2 months and have not had any problems with the paint yet. I do have what seems to be a permanent crease in the passenger seat leather. I do not normally have a passenger unless it is me in the passenger seat (I weigh around 120)and my husband is driving. Recently I had to take my Dad (who weighs around 190) back and forth to doctor. Trips were only a couple of blocks, but the crease appeared after these trips. Also the back seat has something weird happening with it after my Dad's wife sat back there. I only have around 2,000 miles on this car. Is this normal wear????????
Also I do not have a Lexus dealership in my town. Can I get my 5k, 10k check ups at the local Toyota dealership?
One last thing - sometimes when I shift into reverse it seems very hard (can't think of a better word) and it is loud - like a clunk. I thought it may be the doors locking that made it seem loud. Anyone else have this problem? Does it sound like the transmission?
Thanks!
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Re: Love/Hate [jano2]
by jaspalb
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Oct 29, 2007 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: jano2 (Oct 29, 2007 6:38 am)
I also noticed some crease in the seat leather joint areas, but that seems to be normal. For the hard shift, do you park on a slope? Do you use parking brake? If you don't use parking brake, and there is slight incline, there may be hard click when you shift from Park.
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Re: Love/Hate [jaspalb]
by jano2
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Oct 29, 2007 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: jaspalb (Oct 29, 2007 7:05 pm)
No I don't park on a slope. I don't know what it could be and I am hoping it is nothing.
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Re: Love/Hate [jano2]
by nvbanker
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Oct 30, 2007 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: jano2 (Oct 29, 2007 7:41 pm)
Don't worry about the clunk. If it's a problem with the transmission, have them check it the first time the car is serviced. You're covered, so even if the transmission falls out, it isn't going to cost you. Relax, and drive You're in great hands.....or wheels.
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Lexus transmission problems
by strapper
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Nov 12, 2007 (5:04 pm)
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I have a 2000 Es 300 which I have had from newwith no problems at all and hoped to buy a ES 350 but am very concerned with the transmission problems.Strangely Consumers Reports refers to the problems but still has the car as Recommended but does not recommend the V6 Camry which I assume has the same powertrain.Can anyone comment on this.What if anything is Lexus doing to fix this problem on effected cars and are more recent cars still effected?
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