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#1424 of 2769 Miscellaneous Ramblings....
Jun 09, 2006 (5:56 am)
...Just got my car yesterday and wanted to provide a little feedback for those of you who may not have yet taken the plunge (as well as those of you who have).
First of all, the increase of power is quite significant and is most apparent when accelerating from 20-30 mph. In the past (ES 300), you had to hope for the best and allow a great deal of distance to accelerate. Between the anemic engine and the horrible throttle response on earlier generations, acceleration from 20-30 mph was, shall we just say, "leisurely." No more. This thing's got balls. Yes, it still is more of a boulevard cruiser that a real sports sedan, but it now has an engine with some umph and a responsive transmission to go with it. The engine is a bit louder than previous generations, however and unlike the past, is a bit audible at idle with the audio system off. Depending on your tastes this is perhaps not such a bad thing, however.
I don't like where the put the seat ventillation/heat controls. You have to look under the armrest to see them and use them and I can easily imagine forgetting to reset them to their off, detent positions. The ES 300/330 had them on the center stack with indicator lights, a much better arrangement. Also, as others have commented, the "ventillation" function of these seats is entirely worthless. They only blow the faintest amount of air. Perhaps Lexus will address this in the near future.
I do miss the strip of wood over the glove box though the interior is very modern and attractive. In typical Lexus fashion, everything works like a fine Swiss watch.
I wish they had left a seperate window for the climate control. As it is, it shares the main screen and to adjust anything you must switch away from the map display. This makes it a bit of a pain to cut out the A/C condenser after you press "Auto." In the past this had its own dedicated button on the center stack. No more. I also wish they had seperate windows for the exterior temp and the trip computer displays. As it is they share a small rectangular window between the speedo and tach. If you want to display 'Average MPG,' for instance, the outside temp is only shown in very small numbers below this. In the past the outside temp had its own spot in a window on the center stack and the trip computer functions had their own display. Ah well, progress.
The swiveling headlights are VERY cool and really do exactly what they're advertised to do. What's best is that you can really see their illumination pattern moving as you steer the steering wheel.
The Bluetooth system works perfectly and the clarity is simply astounding. I have a feeling that once I start getting used to this I'll never even think of driving a car without it again (pretty much the same reaction I had to having a nav system).
Keyless entry and start?! Absolutely ridiculously useless feature. Where do I put all my keys? With a normal car they hung happily from the dash as I drove; now I think I'll just have to throw them in the cup holders while I'm driving. I know "everyone's doing it" but it's just plain dumb and an example of technology looking for an application. In this case it found one and it was worse than pointless. Again, 'oh well,' progress marches on I suppose.
The interior lighting is gorgeous and incredibly classy looking, as are the little "puddle lamps" (is that what they're called?) mounted under each side mirror.
The seat extender (on the driver's seat) is pretty much worthless. It hardly comes out at all but who cares, the seats are extremely comfortable anyway.
The ride is simply wonderful. Firmer than bebfore but still able to soak up pretty much anything that comes its way. Much less body lean than in the past though it's still no BMW 5 series.
MPG you ask? So far on about 75% highway driving, I'm getting 26-27 mpg! Compared to the 18-19 mpg I was getting in the 2002 ES300, I'd say that's pretty damn impressive.
All in all, I give this car an A- on an absolute basis.
On a value for dollar basis, it gets a solid A+.
#1425 of 2769 Re: Miscellaneous Ramblings.... [psychdoc]
Jun 09, 2006 (6:53 am)
Congratulations Psychdoc, and thanks for all the information about your impressions of the car. I am envious. Makes me what to run out today and get my ES. I have been so busy with work and just got back from playing out of town, besides I still have two months of my lease left if I want to wait it out or I can turn it in early. It seems like everyone on here has gotten their car but me. ("I want a golden goose, Daddy! And I want it NOW") LOL. Oh yeah, I still haven't decided on a color. What color did you get, Psychdoc....wasn't it Ruby?
#1426 of 2769 Re: Miscellaneous Ramblings.... [cablondeblue]
Jun 09, 2006 (7:06 am)
Yes, I got the ruby with black interior.
Get the UL package, the Mark Levinson system alone is worth the price.
Oh yeah, I forgot to comment on the audio system.
Simple, I've been a serious audiophile for years and this system is just awesome!
Hang in there, I'm sure you'll get yours soon enough.
I really do think you'll love it!
#1427 of 2769 Re: Miscellaneous Ramblings.... [psychdoc]
Jun 09, 2006 (8:41 am)
Please share your thoughts on the panoramic roof...
#1428 of 2769 Re: Miscellaneous Ramblings.... [mmoss1]
Jun 09, 2006 (8:56 am)
***Please share your thoughts on the panoramic roof...***
Haven't played much with it but I do like the look of it. It looks very 'high techy' and I think it's cool that the rear seat passengers have their own little window on the [vertical] world. It gives the car's interior a more open, spacious look and feel.
#1429 of 2769 Re: Miscellaneous Ramblings.... [psychdoc]
Jun 09, 2006 (10:18 am)
Psychdoc, would you please post pictures of your car? That is the color I want with UL and I would love to see what it looks like with the roof.
#1430 of 2769 Re: Miscellaneous Ramblings.... [robynl]
Jun 09, 2006 (10:25 am)
I'll try to put something up. Can't say when but I'll try.
#1431 of 2769 UL with ML package
Jun 09, 2006 (10:40 am)
It has been since I got our ES 350 with ML and UL package (tungsten pearl).
I chose the package just to get the better audio system (which is very good!)......but have come to realize that the panoramic roof is very nice.......we get all these ooh and aah from friends who have been in the car's back seat..and it makes it seem more airy and spacious. Also the glass roof makes the exterior look better.
I find the keyless start quite nifty never having to fumble for keys (works better for my wife who just leaves it in her purse).
MPG has been 25.1 for pretty slow bay area stop and go traffic which is very nice (that was one of the reasons I chose ES over M35 which is also a very nice car).
Acceleration is good, ride is smooth (all the usual lexus char with a better acceleration)
Air conditioning is very effective, AFS works well.......spoken vice commands are a hit or miss......hopefully will get better with a software patch
With all the electronics I have been debating whether I should get extended warranty if I decide to keep it beyond 4 years.........thoughts?
#1432 of 2769 Re: Miscellaneous Ramblings.... [psychdoc]
Jun 09, 2006 (1:36 pm)
You say Keyless entry and start?! Absolutely ridiculously useless feature. Where do I put all my keys?
Answer: Just keep them in your pocket and the ladies can just keep them in your purse!
#1433 of 2769 Bluetooth Blues
Jun 10, 2006 (4:03 am)
Does anyone else find it annoying that you cannot input numbers on the touchscreen when the car is in motion. I know that I and pretty much everyone I know calls home periodically during the day to check for messages. With the ubiquitous "toll saver" settings that all answering machines have when the phone picks up after the second ring you have to dial your personal code to retrieve your messages. With the car in motion, you can't do this. Similarly, with the car in motion you cannnot dial a number that's not on your speed dial list.
Seems like another case of 'law suit-o-phobia' or "let's let the lawyers let us know what the hell we can and cannot do."
What a major league drag.