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Replying to: s200087 (Jan 25, 2006 5:11 pm) I think you might be missing the point here...The current GTO wasn't developed as a GTO, there was no rush to build a GTO at all. It was developed and is built in Australia as a Monaro - a name plate that dates back to the 60's, and was an Australian semi-equivalent to the Camaros and Firebirds in the US at that time. GM decided to import a limited number of them to the US, and slapped a GTO name on it. Was that a bad call? Apparently, since so many people seem offended by it. Personally, I couldn't care less what they call it - it's an excellent car, fast and comfortable, handles well if not with razor sharp reflexes, great build quality. Styling is totally subjective - I like it. STi owners probably like the styling of that car, which goes to show that beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder! I think the comparisons are valid, even if there is a 2x differential in number of doors, etc. Approx $30k fast cars both - certainly likely to be cross shopped by some folks. I know it crossed my mind.
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Replying to: dclark2 (Jan 25, 2006 11:49 am) |
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Replying to: jontyrees (Jan 27, 2006 2:18 pm) Floor it and the car would twist from tq. However, stock, most of those muscle cars were unable to do better than a 15 sec 1/4. Crude suspensions and tires were to blame. Time has made made some think these cars were better than they are. If the new GTO were truly like the old, it would have a poor handling solid axle rear, rough ride, bad brakes and maybe even some "Judge" stickers on it. Sadly, if it had all those, it'll probably be more popular! I got a few negative comments from the "purists" when I got my '96 Impala ("they should have kept it to two doors!") I remember telling one knob that if they did that, the car would require extra tooling and an extra assembly line which would increase the car by $1,000s. The answer was "So what? They should have made it with two doors!" Flash back to 2006- any GTO can waste a '60's car. Heck, even the Sti can do it, despite having two extra doors! |
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Replying to: m382 (Jan 24, 2006 2:23 pm) I have the 2006 with the bigger brakes and styling enhancements. Not sure if the comparison was with a 2005. Anyway, I think like other folks say; it comes down to personal preference. The 2006 gto is just awesome (from my view). I've driven the sti and yes it's fun. But, to me it looks like a box with an ironing board on the back. It also is not very comfortable. GTO just hauls butt with that L2 corvette motor. They got the sound just right too; throaty and powerful but not too loud for everyday driving. It is very comfortable to drive, handles great in turns and I note the difference with the independent suspension over bumpy roads. Regarding the subdued styling...I like it. It looks sharp but not gaudy or tacky; a sleeper, not a cop-magnet. |
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GM will discontinue it, they've announced. We'll see if it comes back in another form. They will have a RWD platform since the Camaro got a green light. -juice
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 06, 2006 11:46 am) This was reported by autoweek on 3/2/06. http://www.gtoforum.com/showthread.php?t=6730 |
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So I've been researching into buying a new GTO (or used rather since I can get one with practically no miles for 10k less). I want an 05 with the LS2. With 400hp stock it's hard to imagine what Pontiac would do to turn that into a judge, i mean how ballsy do you need a car to be? But in 04 they made one.....sort of. The GTO Ram Air 6 was a one off concept that was designed to get a lot of buzz around the concept model during it's debut. The Ram Air 6 was a naturally aspirated 6.4litre V8 with a working ram air hood and custom air intake producing 575hp! (That's more than the most powerful Saleen Mustang GT wich is quad turbo charged  550hp)!! It also had an incredibly aggressive look compared to the stock model and the beautiful Judge orange color. Now I'm a fan of the subtle lines that the GTO (Holden/Vauxhaul)has. It's not aggressive like a saleen mustang or new sharp edged Charger. However the 400 raging hormonal horses underneath speak for themselves, even a 5.7 Hemi can't hold up to the raw power of a GTO and a Mustang GT is more like a ponycar in comparasin. I hope like heck the GTO is here to stay, even a Judge version would be great. However if you want your GTO to look more like the beast it is, there are body kits and special hoods out there (even one that has ram air scoops that resemble the classic Judge)to give your humble styled GTO some extra sexy lines. Hey a supercharger would also kick some butt.........you know if you need to race any Ferraris or anything. But an STi...why don't we compare the GTO to something a little more manly than a Subaru, like a 10 speed bicycle. (Just kidding by the way, but there is no way you can seriosly compare apples to oranges.) 
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| Oh and by the way. GM did do a concept version of the GTO before deciding to go with the (Holden/Vauxhal) Monaro as the basis. If you ever feel inclined Google GTO Concept to find out more. | |
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gto vs sti is a bit of a weird comparison but you can bet that wrx & goat drivers are indeed comparing! one thing i miss in my goat compared to my previous 4 Z28s is the near-30 mpg highway mileage. goat cannot do that, 24 mpg is the max and 21 mpg more typical. i understand the sti can at least do 25 mpg highway - can it do 28+ mpg like the standard-trans fourth-gen f-body cars could do at 75 mph or so? also do some STI drivers hate the STI rear spoiler as much as some of us goat drivers hate/remove our goats spoilers?
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Replying to: elias (May 15, 2006 4:17 am) As for manliness, is this not manly?   -juice
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