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#54 of 91
Long trip on the 8, still bad mileage by dwynne
Sep 24, 2006 (9:14 am)
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I get around 13-15mpg in town in my 05 RX-8 GT w/6 speed. My commute is about 12 miles each way about 1/2 stop and go and 1/2 freeway.
 
I drove a 380 mile round trip yesterday it was almost 100% interstate with only a couple of stops. Speeds were 60mph up to 73mph, depending on which state and if we were in town or not. For the first tank, I got 21.5mpg.
 
For reference, in my 2005 S2000 I get 23-25mph around town and 27-29mpg on a trip - all with the top down.
 
They only good news is that gas has dropped here to under $2.50 per gallon for premium.
 
In the long term RX-8 test update in one of the car magazines, the commented on how expensive the 8 was to run in terms of always adding oil and how thirsty it was at the pump. "This is why no one else makes a rotary engine". The car is nice and fun to drive and the rotary is smooth, but I have owned 345 mph and 394hp (stock) cars that could deliver the same or better mileage and own a car with similar power and redline that gets a TON better.
 
Dennis
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Re: Long trip on the 8, still bad mileage [dwynne] by trispec
Sep 25, 2006 (2:32 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Sep 24, 2006 9:14 am)

This seems a bit trollish, but I'm gruff'n having just blown down I95 from Portland to Boston in my 2005 RX-8 AT. This time of year, between labor day and the beginning of leaf peeping season, the I95 Portland to Boston run is stunningly fast.
 
I got 23MPG averaging 85MPH.
 
I also believe, the RX-8 far surpasses all the competition. During the year I've own my RX-8 AT, I've driven 16K miles, where 6000 of those miles were highway. Long stretches of highway cruising needs a car to be roomy and comfortable, fun to drive, and capable of carrying the average U.S. family and all their weekend stuff.
#56 of 91
Re: Mazda RX8 Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [pathstar1] by w9cw
Sep 25, 2006 (4:06 am)
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Replying to: pathstar1 (May 13, 2006 1:46 pm)

I'm not sure when the R100 was imported, but I had a friend who had a NSU Ro80 and it's fuel mileage was quite poor. Of course, Dr. Wankel's rotary design is not known for fuel economy.
 
I bought a new Mazda RX2 in 1972, and loved the car, except for the gas mileage. And, as "pathstar1" says, apex seals were a problem. I loved driving that car, and gas was cheap at the time.
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Re: Long trip on the 8, still bad mileage [trispec] by dwynne
Sep 25, 2006 (4:57 am)
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Replying to: trispec (Sep 25, 2006 2:32 am)

You have about 2x the miles on your 8 than I do - but I have other cars and motorcycles to share the transportation load
 
I just report what I get. Driving around town there are lots of variables - do you redline, do you putt putt, etc. But on a trip where you just set the cruise and drive (straight line boredom) there is not much I could do to make it better or worse. Maybe after more miles are on my car the numbers will pick up.
 
I agree that the car is unique - but that is not 100% a good thing. As I said I got better MPGs in cars with a LOT more horsepower than the 8 - the rotary is just horribly inefficient.
 
Dennis
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Re: Long trip on the 8, still bad mileage [dwynne] by trispec
Sep 25, 2006 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Sep 25, 2006 4:57 am)

My normal Boston commute is for the most part, along a 30 mile round trip of tree lined neighborhoods where speed limits of 35-40MPH predominate and where Boston cops live to catch speeders. So horse power means nothing as it would be completely wasted in my driving environment.
 
What does matter enormously, is having a car that pulls .93Gs through Boston's famous traffic rotary systems and winding cow path road layouts with three passengers. Makes the daily commute quite invigorating.
 
Sure I pay 20% to 30% more for gas, but my passengers would much rather ride in my RX-8 than any other car. They pay me for the priveledge in fact. The car is known as "Therapy car" in my commute cycle.
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Re: Long trip on the 8, still bad mileage [trispec] by dwynne
Sep 25, 2006 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: trispec (Sep 25, 2006 5:31 am)

You are also driving the "de-tuned" auto tranny car . If you had the full 238hp of the 6 speed cars then maybe you would get numbers similar to what my 6 speed returns
 
You must be short and have short passengers too. I love my 8 (except for the mileage, recalls, and lack of resale value) but my 6'+ sons really have trouble fitting in the car with me - and pretty much no one can ride behind me (and I am not that tall). But driving solo it is fine - and close to the thrill of the S2000. With a VooDoo knob the 6 speed in the 8 actually has shorter throws than the S gearbox - which has a very tight pattern.
 
Lots of cars can do close to a g in a corner, and have more power to pull out of it. My M5 could, for sure I prefer a lighter, more tossible car however - which is why have both the s and the 8. Looking at the prices on the mazdaspeed6 I have been tempted to sell the 8 and get one (Mazda has a knack for making great cars that they can't sell) - but it is a good bit heavier than the 8 so ultimately would be less fun for me to drive. Ditto the new G35 - more passenger room, more ponies, better gas mileage, fewer (likely) recalls - but may not be as much fun.
 
Enough of that, since this is the MPG forum - I will just state again 14-15mpg around town and 21.45 on a 95% interstate commute is lousy gas mileage for a small car. Good thing premium here is down under $2.50 a gallon
 
Dennis
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Re: Long trip on the 8, still bad mileage [dwynne] by trispec
Sep 25, 2006 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Sep 25, 2006 7:28 am)

Had to give up on clutches. Besides all cars are going to the paddle shifts. Even NASCAR is thinking about going to auto shifting with paddle. Auto-shifters do shift about ten times faster than pro drivers can.
 
Mazda was aiming at a price point, that's why the auto tranny can't go over 7500. An auto-tranny that can handle 9000 RPM starts to get expensive. The Caparo T1, needs a $13,000 paddled shifted 6 speed auto tranny to handle it's 12000 RPM racing V8. Sticks are definitely going the way of the dodo bird, I think.
 
Beside Boston traffic jams pretty much destroyed my shifting knee and angle after 15 years of sticking it.
#61 of 91
Improved my RX-8 AT MPG by 25% by trispec
Oct 04, 2006 (6:48 am)
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Simple really. Changed my commute route to maximize my ability to coast in full automatic mode. Gone from 14MPH to near 18MPH in the city.
 
I had long taken Pathstar's advise about keeping RPMs above the 3000 level via manual mode paddle shifting, because of wanting to guard against carbon build-up.
 
But then I realized that coasting 50% or more of my commute would keep carbon down even better. There just so happens to be a certain odd combination of routes where, although traffic is heavy, coasting is also almost continuous through out.
 
So rather than trying to have fun on less crowded hills and curves where coasting is just not practical, I'm commuting the slow and steady route with a massive traffic flow.
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Anyone else notice an MPG drop after latest PCM upgrade? by rx8wannab
Dec 14, 2006 (11:14 am)
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I took my 2005 AT in last month for the voluntary recall, and among other things they "upgraded" my PCM. Since then I've noticed about a 1 MPG decline in fuel efficiency. My MPG average for the month before the upgrade was 18.6. Since then it has been 17.6, with no change in driving patterns. Some upgrade!
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Re: Anyone else notice an MPG drop after latest PCM upgrade? [rx8wannab] by pathstar1
Dec 14, 2006 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: rx8wannab (Dec 14, 2006 11:14 am)

The upgrade could have addressed other issues such as engine life. At any rate, with winter here 1 MPG loss is pretty good. It alone often causes 3-5 MPG loss.
 
If you think "upgrades" should address fuel efficiency, time to buy a Prius.

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