Last post on Apr 25, 2012 at 7:48 AM
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Mazda Protege, Mazda Protege5, Fuel Efficiency (MPG)
#53 of 60 Re: 26.7 mpg 60,164 miles [autonomous]
Sep 27, 2009 (5:55 pm)
Interesting. You drive a diesel Jetta but call the Protege noisy. I guess diesels have improved.
Your comment is so very 1979.
Protege has a well deserved reputation for road noise and wind noise.
It's handling, ergonomics, material quality and other attributes far outweigh the minor faults.
Average 26 mpg and 27 mpg on last two tanks of fuel.
Jetta averaged 41 mpg on same route for what it's worth.
#54 of 60 Fun to drive great mileage...27-30 MPG [tsowards]
Nov 21, 2009 (8:56 am)
On a 13 hour trip to Vermont from Ohio, I got 34 mpg one way.
One way was climbing, the other, going down. The down run gave me the
I get a boost when I use Chevron fuel injector cleaner, or super high test gas.
The cost per mile does not improve using the super high test, but it is a challenge to post the highest mpg.
I always get a boost in miles per gallon when I put in new plugs, which has a good payback.
I enjoy driving the Protege5 so much that I can't wait to drive to work and home.
When I had an Austin Healy 3000 in 1968, I was hooked on that car so much I drove an hour and a half after dinner every night. Part of that mystique was that prior to that time, I was on assignment to drive a mobile 50 foot tractor trailer classroom and went from San Francisco to San Diego across the southern U.S. to Cape Canaveral, than then north to Pittsburgh and Chicago. 25,000 miles in 14 months.
I got hooked on road joy.
Driving is an end in itself, and it is great to be able to use a utilitarian necessity for pleasure. Clutchless shifting is a joy with the ZF transmission (I bought the MP5 by special order the first week Mazda produced with ZF clutchless shifting transmission, side impact bags, and sun roof. Aside from the rear wheel well and door bottom rust emerging, the car is sound, and I am staying on top of the rust with polishing compound and wax. I have 72,000 miles on the car, and will probably invest heavily in eliminating the rust cancer and rust proofing so I can drive the car into the ground.
I've had Toyota Cressida, Dodge Maxivan, Olds Bravada, Volvo Wagon that I took to 225,000 miles before SELLING, with the Bravada sold to a friend and still running at 140,000 miles.
A useful and family fun vehicle becomes an old friend, and it is tough to let them go.
My wife has had four Miatas. We currently have a lightly driven 3rd car '99 Miata with 36,000 miles on it. It is a psychological "being cool" boost for my dear Polly (64). Her license plate is ZZ MIATA, mine ZOOM OH (OHIO). Yes we are committed to the Zoom Zoom experience. We have had some lighting replacement annoyance with the Protege, but otherwise we replace brake pads, rotors, and filters with oil changes and that is about it.
You will buy a Mazda if you test drive one. Try a RX-8 which is a really impressive piece of engineering and design, and a machine you "want to be seen in" and you then drive a Miata, and the Miata wins hands down. Emotion overrides every time.
If you love to drive, you pick the car that is most fun to drive. Mazda has the formula down. Drive a Volvo or Focus equivalent which is the same set of hardware, but different performance objectives, and the Mazda will always win.
The Mazda product people are passionate in their development and they listen to their fans.
Zoom Zoom Zoom.
Bruce of Canton Ohio
Nov 21, 2009 (9:03 am)
I concur. I was new product develop manager for Fram for 5 years, and the K and N delivers performance at a cost in engine wear.
For performance/fun people who will turn a car over to get the latest technology and ZOOM, the K and N makes sense. They know what they are doing, to deliver performance and fun.
Bruce of Canton
Nov 21, 2009 (9:06 am)
When did you replace your timing chain?
Older Protege's needed to be changed at 65,000 miles.
I hear 105,000 is ok for 2002 forward.
Bruce of Canton
#57 of 60 Re: poor mpgs [mazdanut]
Nov 21, 2009 (9:11 am)
Do you really like the lines of the M3 better than the MP5?
I just love the MP5 design.
I can tolerate the M3 lines because of the continuous performance improvement.
I'm getting near retirement and looking at the M6 wagon which has the MP5 design profile and a softer suspension, more room in the front and back (although the rear seats in the MP5 have more room than the larger M6 wagon).
Can you figure why Mazda is holding back on availability for the 2010 M6 wagon?
Bruce of Canton
#58 of 60 Re: poor mpgs [mazdanut]
Feb 01, 2012 (2:25 pm)
I've been running into a similar problem with my 2003 MP5 automatic. I've been averaging around 20-21 mpgs, as low as 18 and occasionally on a drive out to Las Vegas as high as 25. Needless to say, this seems like a far cry from the upper 20s I was hoping to be getting when I bought the car. Any advice or suggestions for things to get checked out?
#59 of 60 Re: poor mpgs [ahnyong]
Feb 02, 2012 (9:25 am)
According to Consumer Reports, 25 mpg is the overall average for a Mazda Protege automatic.
As to improving fuel efficiency, the usual nostrums apply including driving smoothly, avoiding lots of short trips and proper vehicle maintenance.
In the case of the Protege, you might want to check that the fuel emissions system (including the EGR valve) is in good working order.
#60 of 60 Ghost of the Mazda Protege forum
Apr 25, 2012 (7:48 am)
Been a while since I posted here. I'm still driving my 2001 Pro LX and it is beginning to do poorly
on mpg, but it has only 48K on it. Gets an inspection the end of the month. One surprise, the Check Engine light came on last week. That was the old bug the Proteges had in 2001. I didn't tighten the gas cap on the previous fill, when that was done, the Check Engine lamp turned off.
My reason for not trading: you can't beat the Mazda Pro for being practical, frugal, roomy, and reliable. And its lines are Classic, similar to M-Bs. For a smoother
ride buy Khumo Summer Cruising tires or any brand with soft rubber sidewalls.
Have yet to see anything worth trading for, that offers considerably more in all areas. Although, the Kias look promising.