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#843 of 961 Re: Beat This -- Range on Tank! [whobodym]
Oct 06, 2011 (6:51 am)
Per the Press Release from Mazda earlier this week, it looks like one can (or at least will be able to) opt for a fairly well tarted up Mazda3 i GT with the SkyActiv-G motor; it remains to be seen if you can opt for all of the goodies one can order with the Mazda3 s GT (you know, things like dual-zone climate control and keyless entry/push-button start).
Full press release:
Mazda Announces Pricing of 2012 Mazda3 With SKYACTIV® TECHNOLOGY
- Popular Compact Offers Up to 40 MPG (Highway) and Lower Starting MSRP -
IRVINE, Calif., Oct. 4, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) today announced pricing of its refreshed 2012 Mazda3 compact vehicle, including the first application of the brand's all-new fuel-efficient and performance-oriented SKYACTIV TECHNOLOGY. Available as both a sedan and hatchback, Mazda3 commands more than 40 percent of Mazda's year-to-date sales, and is by far the best-selling vehicle in the brand's line-up.
"The Mazda3 is the core of the Mazda line-up and continues to be the standard by which all other compact cars are measured," said Jim O'Sullivan, president and CEO, MNAO. "Because of the importance of this critical vehicle to Mazda sales success, we chose to debut our revolutionary SKYACTIV TECHNOLOGY in Mazda3, as well as bring the i SV model to market at a lower starting MSRP than the previous year."
The Mazda3 i SV sedan starts at an impressive $15,200(1) MSRP, which is a price drop from the previous model year. Styling is updated with a revised front fascia and Mazda-distinctive five-point grille opening. Inside, new cloth seats and a bold, black cabin accentuates intuitive controls and panels. Paired with the dependable 148-horsepower MZR 2.0-liter engine, the Mazda3 i SV sedan is the first stop in Mazda's performance-geared, fuel-efficient line of sporty compacts. Moving up to the Mazda3 i Sport, the 2012 model sees the addition of remote keyless entry as standard equipment. The Mazda3 i Sport sedan starts at $16,845 MSRP and is optionally available with the five-speed Sport automatic transmission. Mazda3 i SV and Sport trims are not available on five-door models.
Mazda3 i Touring models swap the MZR engine for the all-new SKYACTIV-G 2.0-liter gasoline engine, and is EPA-rated to achieve 40 mpg on the highway. MSRP for the sedan model starts at $18,450. SKYACTIV TECHNOLOGY is a suite of fun-to-drive and fuel-saving technologies, debuting with a SKYACTIV-G 2.0-liter engine that produces 155 horsepower and 148 lb-ft of torque. The all-new engine offers five percent more horsepower than the standard MZR 2.0-liter engine as well as 10 percent more peak torque, 15 percent more low- to mid-range torque and up to 21 percent better fuel economy. And, unlike competitors in the segment, the SKYACTIV-G 2.0-liter engine is available on a host of different trim levels to benefit the most customers possible.
In addition, the hatchback model will be available for the first time in the U.S. with a 2.0-liter engine, priced from $18,950 for the Mazda3 i Touring hatchback with SKYACTIV-G, and boasts an EPA-rated 39 mpg on the highway, which is best-in-class for compact five-doors. All i Touring and Grand Touring models are available with the all-new SKYACTIV-MT six-speed manual transmission or the all-new SKYACTIV-Drive six-speed automatic transmission (an additional $850 MSRP for either sedan or hatchback model).
Building off the Mazda3 i Touring model is the all-new i Grand Touring trim level, also available in both sedan and hatchback body styles. Mazda3 i Grand Touring models provide class-competitive fuel efficiency as well as high-value standard features such as a power moonroof, power driver's seat, leather-trimmed seats, heated front seats, a Bose® Centerpoint® 10-speaker Surround Sound System with AudioPilot® and a full-color navigation system with a multi-information display (MID). Mazda3 i Grand Touring sedan models start at $22,300 MSRP with five-door models starting at $22,800.
Other standard equipment for i Touring and Grand Touring models are an all-new 16-inch aluminum alloy wheel design, a leather-wrapped shift knob and steering wheel as well as a trip computer. A Moonroof & Bose® Audio Package is available for i Touring models ($1,400) while an updated Technology Package featuring rain-sensing windshield wipers, self-leveling bi-xenon headlights, automatic headlights, Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS), Sirius satellite radio and a perimeter alarm. A segment-exclusive Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM) System is available for i Grand Touring models ($1,400).
Available in Touring and Grand Touring trims, Mazda3 s models are equipped with an MZR 2.5-liter engine that boasts 167 horsepower and 168 lb-ft of torque. Starting at $21,300 MSRP for the sedan and $21,800 for the hatchback, new standard features for s models are all-new 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels, the Mazda Advanced Keyless Entry & Start System with push-button start, a moonroof, a dual zone automatic climate control system and a Bose® Centerpoint® 10-speaker Surround Sound System with AudioPilot®. Navigation is now standard on all s Grand Touring models.
Equipped with an MZR 2.3-liter Direct Injection Spark Ignition (DISI) engine, the top-of-the-line MAZDASPEED3 has an output of 263 horsepower and 280 lb-ft of torque. The vehicle starts at $24,000 MSRP and is equipped with 18-inch aluminum alloy wheels and a Bose® Centerpoint® 10-speaker Surround Sound System with AudioPilot®. Other standard MAZDASPEED-only treatments include: sport-tuned exhaust, larger front brakes, sport independent front and rear suspension, a limited slip differential with the Mazda Advanced Torque Management System, larger front and rear stabilizer bars, distinctive red and black interior styling with similar-fashioned leather-and-cloth Sport seats, scuff plates, black leather-wrapped shift knob as well as a unique front fascia, fenders and hood.
A MAZDASPEED3 Technology Package is the only packaging option with an MSRP of $2,135, and adds features such as navigation, Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM) System, Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS), self-leveling bi-xenon headlights, automatic headlights, Sirius satellite radio, a perimeter alarm, rain-sensing windshield wipers and the Mazda Advanced Keyless Entry & Start System with push-button start.
Mazda North American Operations is headquartered in Irvine, Calif. and oversees the sales, marketing, parts and customer service support of Mazda vehicles in the United States, Canada and Mexico through nearly 900 dealers. Operations in Canada are managed by Mazda Canada, Inc., located in Ontario; and in Mexico by Mazda Motor de Mexico in Mexico City.
(1) Starting price is manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) for lowest trim level. MSRP does not include $795 destination charge (Alaska $840), title, tax
#844 of 961 16 MPG 2010 mazda3 sport with manual
Nov 11, 2011 (7:47 pm)
What the hell it is!
My2010 mazda3 sport(Manual) can just drive 220miles with one tank. All suburb no highway
Can anyone tells me what's going on?
#845 of 961 Re: 16 MPG 2010 mazda3 sport with manual [zooooooman]
Nov 12, 2011 (6:48 am)
All of my cars can drive 220 miles with one tank.
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#846 of 961 Re: 16 MPG 2010 mazda3 sport with manual [zooooooman]
Nov 12, 2011 (8:35 am)
if you literally mean driving only 220 miles from completely full to running out of gas, and you don't have a fuel leak or a big dent in the side of the gas tank, you are burning about 16 gallons to do the 220 miles, which means you're getting fewer than 14 miles/gal. That is not possible in a well-running MZ3 unless you are talking constant gridlock traffic, extremely illegal average speeds, and so forth. What driving conditions are you talking about?
#847 of 961 Re: 16 MPG 2010 mazda3 sport with manual [whobodym]
Nov 13, 2011 (8:52 am)
"What the hell it is!
My2010 mazda3 sport(Manual) can just drive 220miles with one tank. All suburb no highway
Can anyone tells me what's going on?"
Based on these numbers you are getting 15 mpg, because it's a 14.5 gallon tank. My guess is that you're providing incorrect numbers.
Fill your tank up all the way and set the trip meter. Then next time you fill up calculate your miles to gallon by dividing the number of miles on the trip meter by the number of gallons to refill the tank. This would be the first thing to do to provide an accurate number.
You should be getting 25 mpg city if you drive like a normal person and do not have any major or obvious problems with the engine. Unless you left the parking brake on that kind of poor gas mileage is very unlikely.
#848 of 961 Re: 16 MPG 2010 mazda3 sport with manual [zagitazz]
Nov 13, 2011 (9:39 am)
to have 14.5 gal tank this has to be a 2.0L 3i Sport, not a 2.5L 3s Sport which has 15.9 gal tank.
with a late-model, OBDII-emission-controlled car it is hard to imagine how burning nearly twice as much fuel as normal wouldn't be detected by the ECM computer and turn on the "check engine" light.
are you driving 5000 rpm in 2nd gear lots of the time, or the like??
I'm the guy who did the trip-computer-fuel-economy experiment with Excel spreadsheet data plot a few months back posted here somewhere. I have a 2.5L 6MT not a 2.0L 5MT, but I can tell you highly confidently -- since I did 15 mile constant-speed freeway loops in a location with near zero traffic to get my data -- that the one sure way to turn 34 mpg into 19 mpg is to cruise at 60mph in 3rd gear instead of 6th gear. All the extra fuel is burned up in engine friction at 4700 rpm instead of 2400 rpm. This holds true for all cars not just Mazda3s.
#849 of 961 Re: 16 MPG 2010 mazda3 sport with manual [zagitazz]
Nov 13, 2011 (10:09 am)
3s has 2.5L engine and it is rated only 20 mpg for city for its 5 speed manual.
I have a 2012 3s AT with 2.5L engine. I usually fill up when low gas indicator comes up with about 12-12.5 gollon. Assuming this guy is getting 220 per 12/12.5, he is getting about 18 mpg. This is not to far away from the rated 20. I am getting about 250 miles per 12/12.5 gollon, roughly 22 mpg right at the mpg rating for city but I am actually doing 50/50 city/highway. I bet I'd get much lower mpg than 22 if I go city only. I am not complaining about my mpg performance since I go up-and-down hills a lot daily.
If CEL is lited, you may have miss fire going on in the engine. If you are all of a sudden getting much lower mpg than before, you'll need to bring in your car for a check.
Nov 13, 2011 (10:44 am)
I still don't have a good sense of what kind of mileage I'll get from my 2012 3s HB (m/t). I do a lot of suburban driving (40-60mph) in medium traffic w/ occasional lights. It seems like the best approach is actually to coast as much as possible off throttle (shifting to neutral strikes me as going overboard, and potentially unsafe). 50-60mph on flat terrain in 6th gear is *well* over 30mpg per the trip computer. The trick seems to be to get up to speed briskly (though not insanely), rather than drag things out. I'd like to try it out and see if I can coax 30mpg+ from this engine, but there's one thing that always stops me.
Inevitably (this is FL) there's someone dawdling, or accelerating at a glacial pace. And I know that with just a touch of the go-pedal, I can make that headache disappear in the rearview. And the next thing I know, I'm daydreaming that I'm in a suburban rally . . . until I pull into the Exxon station with 22.1 showing on the avg MPG meter. Again.
#851 of 961 Re: 2.5l mileage [languedoctor]
Nov 13, 2011 (1:38 pm)
Your experience with the 2.5 is precisely why many of us feel Mazda should drop that motor entirely (or at least make the "s" models available with the new SkyActiv-G engine). Granted the new motor isn't quite as powerful as the 2.5, but the trade-off is that the new engine should return at least eight more miles per gallon for any given driving environment.
FWIW, in mixed driving with no attempt to eek out the last possible MPG, my 2.0 liter 2009 Mazda3 i 5-Speed consistently returns a tad over 30 mpg; I'm betting a SkyActiv 6-Speed (manual) model would return mileage in the high thirties for the same type of driving. Unfortunately Mazda won't let me order a nicely optioned model with the new engine and new manual transmission.
#852 of 961 Re: 2.5l mileage [shipo]
Nov 13, 2011 (6:59 pm)
True, but . . . I was smirking in my post (above) because I know I bear a lot of responsibility for the lower mileage...
...but not all. I figured that I needed to get used to the clutch, but after a month, I swear it isn't all me. The throttle response on the 3s is a little bit top-heavy. The car practically invites you to pretend to be a rally driver.
And it really isn't necessary, because the engine is plenty torque-y. No need for gimmicks. $.03