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Acura TSX Real World MPG Numbers

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Re: 09 TSX [fjpthree] by haidongh
Aug 23, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: fjpthree (Aug 03, 2008 1:05 pm)

My new 2009 TSX automatic trans, mixed drive highway and local is about 27, it should be better because my wife do not have a light foot. we live in Dallas, it is flat, so there is no up hill or down hill. But there is some traffic jam, so I think this number is pretty good.
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Re: 09 TSX [haidongh] by troylikesbikes
Aug 24, 2008 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: haidongh (Aug 23, 2008 6:07 pm)

Just filled up my lightly used TSX for the first time, 24 mpg here in Denver. Using midgrade.
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Trip computer is way off my manually calculated MPG by kjnorman
Aug 25, 2008 (6:26 am)
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I have an 08 TSX that has now done about 4600 miles. With every gas receipt I have been recording mileage and gas used. I have noticed two things with the car:
 
1) The trip miles - reset at each fill - does not total the total mileage accumulated. It is typically 1 to 2 miles lower on each fill than the total mileage being accumulated on the car. Initially I thought this was just me not resetting the mileage in time, but since I have been aware of it, I have deduced that it is the trip computer than can not add up, and not me.
 
2) The average mileage per gallon that is calculated on the trip computer is over calculated. Typically it reads 2 to 3 MPG over and above what I am calculating. Now I understand that by filling on different pumps that the gas used may be sightly under or over read, but it usually balances out over a few fills. But I am not seeing this. Take for instance, my last few fills. Last one was recorded at 29.9MPG by the car, 27.7MPG by me. The one previous to that was 29.8MPG by the car, 27.5 by me, and the one prior to that was about 27-28MPG by the car and 25.9 by me. I don't remember this last one exactly but it was significantly off and was the point that sparked my interest in the accuracy of the trip computer. It seems to be consistently off.
 
I am now adjusting my spreadsheet that I use to calculate my gas mileage to track the trip computer totals as well, just to see how bad the trip computer is.
 
Has anyone else been seeing this?
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Re: Trip computer is way off my manually calculated MPG [kjnorman] by rickpoole
Aug 25, 2008 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: kjnorman (Aug 25, 2008 6:26 am)

I found this to be true in my 07 TL. Most of the time the trip computer reads 8-10% too high. This past weekend I had an 09 TSX while my TL was in the shop and used 1/2 a tank and compared the real mileage to the indicated mileage and it too read about 10% too high. No one at any dealer or at Acura has been able to explain why their trip computers all seem to display number that are consistently 5-10% too high.
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Re: Trip computer is way off my manually calculated MPG [rickpoole] by nj2pa2nc
Aug 26, 2008 (3:51 am)
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Replying to: rickpoole (Aug 25, 2008 7:47 pm)

We have found the trip computer to be the same or very close (less than 1%) on our 06 tsx when we compare it to our manual calculations for MPG.
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Re: Trip computer is way off my manually calculated MPG [kjnorman] by obladida1
Aug 26, 2008 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: kjnorman (Aug 25, 2008 6:26 am)

I have an 07 auto/navi TSX and this summer I sadly discovered the exact same thing. The trip computer is off by 1.5 to 2 MPG in its favor on EVERY tank fill. For about a year I thought I was averaging over 29 MPG, but the reality is that I'm only getting around 27. I am extremely disappointed. Can the dealer fix this?
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It's PR BS, Based. . . by cdnpinhead
Aug 26, 2008 (5:24 am)
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on the assumption that the vast majority of the motoring public couldn't calculate MPG manually if their lives depended on it.
 
Every other item on my '08 TSX (currently ~9K mi) is within a percent or two of what it should be (speedometer, odometer, outside temp, etc), but the computer is consistently 2-2.5 mpg high (varied from 35.5 indicated vs. 33.47 calculated to the more typical around-town 28.5 mpg indicated vs. ~25.8 actual). Since the computer works off the fuel injector pulse length & other parameters, I wouldn't expect the numbers to line up perfectly, but I would expect it to be low as often as it's high and to average out pretty close to reality. It's absolutely clear that that's not the case.
 
Sounds like it was real back in '06, but got "tweaked" for the '07 and subsequent model years.
 
I'm sure that extra 2 mpg is selling a few more TSXs via word-of-mouth. Either way, I'm quite pleased with my gas mileage, given the car's performance, even when it's calculated correctly.
 
As to the dealer being able to adjust/correct it, I'd be beyond stunned if such a thing were possible, or even desireable, given the number of times dealer service departments foul up things that had nothing to do with the initial "issue," while not fixing that either.
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'04 vs '09 by deong
Aug 26, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Having a touch of OCD and a full Ph.D., I have always recorded miles traveled and gas paid for with each fill-up. For both the '04 and '09 (now 5,000mi) the "real" number is always 2-3 mpg below the TSX screen number.
 
Now, this could be a cheat by Acura.......or it could be a systematic cheat by the pump gauges (doesn't take much at $4,00/G to greatly increase profit margins).
 
[Prompted by a recent fill-up at a BP station that put 18.3 G into a 18.5 G tank ('09) and I know I had more than a G left.]
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Re: '04 vs '09 [deong] by cdnpinhead
Aug 26, 2008 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: deong (Aug 26, 2008 4:27 pm)

Well, in the states (and provinces) that I've lived in, the government shows up regularly (unannounced, I think, yearly or every two years) with their little five-gallon containers with the long neck and sight glass so that they can verify that every pump on the premises is within a fraction of a percent of what it should be. There's temperature correction for the volume and the whole bit. I believe that the vast majority of gas stations are legit.
 
That said, I've run into several (usually off the beaten path) stations that were keeping their thumb on the scale.
 
What I've seen on my TSX computer covers dozens of different pumps/stations in several states. It's very consistent. Jiggery-pokery for sure.
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Re: '04 vs '09 [cdnpinhead] by deong
Aug 26, 2008 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Aug 26, 2008 4:53 pm)

..so maybe it's my hp33s...? Durn RPN. (Never got close for some 50,000 mi).

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