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#5192 of 5196 Re: Missing the forest for the trees [jkinzel] by imidazol97 Oct 16, 2006 (4:18 am)
Replying to: jkinzel (Oct 15, 2006 8:29 pm) >after giving it some thought and the total failure of our educational system   What total failure. You've been listening to Rush too much. How does this relate to diesels? Replies to this message: jkinzel (Oct 16, 2006 6:30 am)
#5193 of 5196 Re: Missing the forest for the trees [highender] by gagrice Oct 16, 2006 (5:09 am)
Replying to: highender (Oct 15, 2006 9:23 pm) Your comments are much closer to my way of looking at our country. I would add that until we have term limits we will end up with leaders that are self serving. It is our nature.   You did not get any response to your comment about aircraft pollution. Just as a reminder jet airplanes burn diesel fuel. It is number one diesel or commonly referred to as Jet A. Because of the low temperatures in the Arctic our diesel supplier only sold #1 diesel. He was also the supplier for the airlines with Jet A. They would drain off the Jet A tanks on occasion into the diesel tanks to filter out any dirt or water. Because of government regulations fuel for aircraft has to be certified as Jet A. This fuel still has a rather high sulfur content. No one wants to mess with the aircraft industry so that pollution will continue for a long time.   Meanwhile the citizen that wants to cut consumption and GHG is not given any real choices. Replies to this message: ruking1 (Oct 16, 2006 6:22 am)
#5194 of 5196 Re: Missing the forest for the trees [gagrice] by ruking1 Oct 16, 2006 (6:22 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Oct 16, 2006 5:09 am) Also there are numerous studies that indicate burning of fuels, such as jet A (high sulfur fuels) at cruising altitude 25,000-45,000 feet pollutes EXPONENTIALLY GREATER than at sea level. Interestingly enough, environmentalists advocate mass transit such as aircraft travel!!!?? Green Peace also runs a ship that burns, (again many times) higher sulfur fuel. (3000 ppm) The USA government also operates the LARGEST unscheduled airlines and ship fleets which, yup you guessed it, uses higher sulfur fuels.   One also does not have to be a rocket scientist to do the math here. How many gals of 15 ppm diesel do I have to burn to equal 1 gal of 3000 ppm diesel fuel?
#5195 of 5196 Re: Missing the forest for the trees [imidazol97] by jkinzel Oct 16, 2006 (6:30 am)
Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 16, 2006 4:18 am) Rush who?
#5196 of 5196 moving along... by kirstie_h HOST Oct 16, 2006 (6:55 am)
Well, we've somehow turned this discussion from hybrids and diesels into hybrids versus diesels, which wasn't the intent. Time to move along, so feel free to join one of these discussions, based on your interests: Is this the Day of the Diesel? one of the many general hybrid discussions

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