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5196 messages, Last post on Oct 16, 2006 at 6:55 AM
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 15, 2006 1:26 pm) I disagree with this point. The Prius is not available in a non-hybrid, so it's impossible to know how much the hybrid premium is. However, it's safe bet to say that with just a regular 1.5L gasser engine, the Prius would slot in around 15K or so. The Highlander has a roughly 7K premium over the non-hybrid. The Camry has a 7K premium over a non-hybrid version. Granted, some of the premium is content... but I think it's safe to say HSD costs roughly 5K.
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Replying to: jonnycat26 (Oct 15, 2006 1:31 pm) |
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Replying to: john1701a (Oct 15, 2006 7:19 am) Hope for what? I can breath fine here in CA with next to no PZEV/SULEV cars as a percentage. I don't think you know what it was like to have your chest ache from the smog. I was raised in LA and know what smog does to your breathing. We are doing good. If they would just clean up the ships, trains, planes and heaving equipment we would be doing great. Instead CARB and EPA throw up this smokescreen that says they are doing something by forcing SULEV. When one business jet puts out more NOx than 500 diesel cars. I have a friend that is trying to get the Marines to move out into the desert. Their new fighter plane puts out 4 times more NOx than the last generation fighter. Miramar field is in the middle of a huge suburban area. And you are worried about some little VW TDI polluting. Total nonsense that is all it is.
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Replying to: john1701a (Oct 15, 2006 12:06 pm) |
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Here is what our friends in the UK can buy. Ranger crewcab with a 2.5L Duratec diesel engine. 40+MPG and can tow 6000lbs. Nothing in the USA can come close to matching this truck. Thank you CARB & EPA for your forcing us to drive gasoline guzzling PU trucks. Wonder who pays you off. 
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Replying to: jkinzel (Oct 15, 2006 1:03 pm) It is gratifying to see that more of you finally realize what this guy is about. I do not engage him any longer because when you back him into a corner he does not respond. He simply disappears or changes the subject, as some of you have discovered, because he has trapped himself. I have asked for responses from him several times in the past a still waiting. I have been to his website and it has a significant number of factual errors. He puts himself out there as an expert about the Prius and he is not.
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Replying to: winter2 (Oct 15, 2006 5:57 pm) I have asked for responses from him several times in the past a still waiting. I have been to his website and it has a significant number of factual errors. He puts himself out there as an expert about the Prius and he is not. I too have caught him spreading blatant misinformation not only about the Prius (spreading misinformation about a recall), but about cars in general (he claims skinnier tires grip the road better because rollerblades work that way). His usual response when you catch him and call him on it is that you're personally attacking him. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 15, 2006 4:49 pm) Problem with all three of them is that they are built in Thailand and there is a 25% import tax on them. Tax is called the "Chicken Tax". All three trucks would be sold in US today if the tax is eliminated. Probably not with the diesel engines, but you never know......
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Replying to: moparbad (Oct 15, 2006 6:41 pm) I think they will sell well. If VW had a waiting list for their diesel powered vehicles and Daimler-Chrysler sold way more Jeep Liberty CRD's than they originally planned, and all of this with almost no advertising dollars spent on them, then if they advertise them, who knows what will happen. |
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