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Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 18, 2006 9:17 am) My wife likes the Gecko green Beetle. If I could find one with TDI and DSG, I would snap it up. They are as safe as gold as car purchases go.
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Replying to: john1701a (Mar 18, 2006 9:36 am) ..."I'll add that to the anti-hybrid research;"... I am not sure why you need anti hybrid "enemies". I am neither anti hybrid, nor your "enemy." If anything, you are an enemy of alternative fuels. I do not want the alternative fuels "banned or legislated out of existence" I have also been pretty upfront on this board and probably others, why I decided not to get the hybrid, either Prius or HCH, both fine cars I might add. It is good folks with attitudes like yours are not the kings/queens. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 18, 2006 9:40 am) I really like the (retro) NB styling!!! When I bought a 1970 VW Beetle in 1971 (35 years ago) I frankly didnt like the styling much. But with gas expensive at.29 cents and 30-34 mpg, it was pretty good!!!  Running it app 250,000 miles with only scheduled maintenance and normal wear items and one unscheduled maintainance, clutch job wasn't too bad either. My two daughters (both college) didn't want their "DAD" driving a "chick" car!!??? Yeah ,actually a funny story how I got the Jetta instead of the Beetle.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 18, 2006 9:42 am) Then why won't you answer the questions by providing data to support your claim? JOHN
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So what good would talking to a "brick wall"? Or one more piece of data for the "delete before reading" file do." What claim? The claim that you claimed what I say is anti hybrid research? |
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 18, 2006 9:40 am) There are a few green TDI’s in Tacoma, WA. You could buy new here then take it home via Chicago, New York, Tampa and Phoenix. Should have 7501 miles by then. Makes for a long road trip.
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Replying to: jkinzel (Mar 18, 2006 10:12 am) |
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Replying to: john1701a (Mar 18, 2006 9:58 am) What is there to support? You tell me you get 49.5 MPG lifetime on your Prius I believe you. Anyone that lies about something like that will get cornered sooner or later. And The gentleman has posted many times that his Jetta is a MT. Is that significant? The end result seems to me more important than what kind of transmission. If you like automatics you should try the DSG. Superior to anything Toyota has to offer in automatic transmissions. They get equal to manual mileage. If you check the people posting on the EPA website. The 2006 Jetta TDI with automatic is averaging 2.5 MPG better than the EPA estimated rating. That is 14 drivers posting. They did not give their name, rank and serial number so we could not check their credentials. The Forum is supposed to be a fun interchange of ideas and such. It should not be an inquisition to those that we oppose their view point. You have made it clear that you feel that the hybrid is the only solution to our energy and emissions problems. You have also posted that the only hybrid that is any good is the Toyota implementation of HSD. That is your opinion and no one is going to change your mind. That does not leave much room for those of us that are not thrilled with Toyota or want to give other alternatives a fair shot at solving the issues we all face. |
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Replying to: john1701a (Mar 18, 2006 9:58 am) EPA city/highway/combined 52/45/48 Range 42-54 http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=mpgData&vehicleID=18608&browser=tru- e 2003 VW Jetta AVG user 47.1 EPA city/highway/combined 42/49/49 Range 34-63 http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=mpgData&vehicleID=18615&browser=tru- e
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Replying to: john1701a (Mar 18, 2006 9:36 am) It is YOU that continually seeks to discredit almost anyone who opinion/s' is/are different that your own. Anytime someone advances the discussion or gives you a piece of information to see if you have intergrated it, you react as if you haven't heard a word they said. So why are you surprised when you are ignored? So what will 1 time or 1,000,000 times of identifying the transmission do? You get 49.5. I am just fine with that. Who has called you a liar for saying that? I get 50 mpg in a commute. Suddenly since you perceive me as "THE ENEMY" YOU now need 5 million miles of certified impartially collected test data. Yet there is a very dissatified population of Prius owners on the mileage issue. Seems like you are doing the Toyota tactic of total denial. I should ignore you also.
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