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#97 of 930
2005 Camry SE, 2.4L, 5-speed auto MPG report #9 by guill
Feb 20, 2006 (12:13 pm)
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2/20/2006:
- 270.4 Miles
- 12.01 Gallons
- 22.51 mpg
       
95/5 city/highway miles
       
Total miles on car--3789
 
Overall I'm still very pleased with the mileage my Camry's achieved. This reporting period covered some very cold weather (20-40 degrees f), and consisted of many short trips with very little highway miles. 22.51 mpg is very close to EPA estimates and considering the type of driving I do the mileage is actually very good.
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MPG - 2006 Camry LE 4-cyl by lalit
Feb 26, 2006 (10:43 am)
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It's over 3000 miles now. Was consistently getting 26 MPG until I changed my driving habits a bit. Now I'm getting 29 MPG. I drive 80 miles every day, 60 city/40 highway. Basically, I'm gentle on the accelerator now, and use brakes just to stop, not to slow down. No more zoooooom and screeeeeach. Anticipation is the key...for instance, if you see the signal turning red from a distance, slow down (don't apply brakes, just remove foot from the accelerator) so that by the time you reach the signal, it's green again. Also, I stopped driving over 70 mph on the highway. Just follow a simple rule-of-thumb...make sure that your RPM (revolutions per minute) dial doesn't go beyond 2 (2000 rpm) and you will get at least 2-4 mpg more. I will guarantee it!
#99 of 930
Camry XLE 4cyl. by lpage1
Feb 27, 2006 (8:48 am)
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Just picked it up. First week drove 863 miles, 90% highway with rolling hills 33.6 mpg. Very pleased with overall performance.
#100 of 930
Re: What? I never said that. [210delray] by phd86
Feb 27, 2006 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: 210delray (Feb 05, 2006 6:42 pm)

re: your 04 camry, you said as follows:
 
"I bought 424.1 gallons of 87 octane gas over 11,408 miles for an overall mpg of 26.9"
 
you provided no composition of driving, so you are quoted correctly on that one.
 
Not on the 2005; my error there:
 
as for the 05 camry, I rechecked the post and could not relocate the 26 mpg estimate, so I believe I made an error in translating your post into a summary table(I was working from note summaries of your posts, not hardcopies of the posts themselves).
 
If you recall my post #7433, I cautioned against making any assumption about "mixed" mileage unless you actually record the city miles driven (is 50% to you half the time or half the miles driven - only the latter is valid for mileage purposes; you can sit in a car for 3 hours going 30 miles an hour, while you would have driven 210 miles going 70 miles an hour; if combined, that's 30% city, not 50%).
 
I am accumulating a few more tankfuls before posting the latest information on my 04.
#101 of 930
Re: - [dudleyr] by phd86
Feb 27, 2006 (9:39 pm)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Feb 02, 2006 6:23 pm)

I couldn't disagree more with you about CR, that is, about the mileage in this car. I have, in fact, warmed up the car, and drove it continuously on pure freeway, no wind, no cold or intense heat, no speed above 65, and do not get anywhere near the 35 mpg that CR asserts (in fact, I have never got a single tankful in my camry, or two others I have rented for comparison, to get this). I've done other tests at slower speeds (and a few slightly higher), for comparison. Not a huge amount of wind, or terrain, to deal with in the central valley of california. flat. I have also done several tankfuls up and down mountains; which resulted in (expectedly) lower fuel economy.
 
No 35 mpg. Not even an abbarent tankful. Not close.
 
As for most of the other factors; none of them are relevant to me (if anything, I bias my driving to get as much fuel economy as possible), religously check tire inflation, minimize a/c use, we have short rainy seasons, and the roads are neither hilly, windy, coarse, or other unusuals. The engine tune has been checked, thoroughly, by a dealer.
 
I have no information on what you mean by "tire type"; mine are the original tires (bridgestone potenza I believe, which I have had balanced and rotated every 5,000 miles); if you have a specific suggestion on a tire type that could increase mpg, please provide.
#102 of 930
- by dudleyr
Feb 28, 2006 (12:38 pm)
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Something must be wrong with your vehicle then. How many rpm's are you turning at 60 mph - maybe your toque converter is not locking up. Are you using ethonol blended fuel - that will reduce mileage by about 5%.
 
Tires are quite important. I would try about 34-36 psi if you are running lower. As for tires with reduced rolling resistance, one of the best is the Michelin energy (so named because of low rolling resistance). Just changing the tires won't do miracles, but could add as much as 2 mpg.
 
Speaking of tires, it is possible that one or more of your tires is mildly defective, and this could increase rolling resistance.
 
Another way to add a little mpg is to use synthetic oil - maybe up to 1 mpg on the highway, with the added benefit of slightly longer change intervals and more protection in the cold as synthetic flows better.
 
It just doesn't seem right that you can't top 30 mpg. My Sienna with a V-6 and lots of wind drag gets about 26 mpg going 70. If I drop to 65 or slightly lower I can top 30. Once had a tailwind on a long trip and got nearly 30 mpg averaging about 73 mph. When I get up to 80 mph though, I am in the low 20's - just too much air to push. The worst I have ever measured was about 20.5 mpg going 80 mph into a strong headwind - lots of wind in SD.
 
BTW - have you every checked the accuracy of your odometer? Maybe it is not ticking off the miles fast enough. The markers on the highway should be a good guide.
#103 of 930
Re: What? I never said that. [phd86] by 210delray
Feb 28, 2006 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: phd86 (Feb 27, 2006 9:19 pm)

I can see where I got confused with what you wrote:
 
210delray #7926 - 05 LE - 26 mpg freeway
210delray #7432 - 04 LE - 26.9 mpg (supecedes msg #7926)

 
I didn't know what your post numbers meant -- we're only up to #103 with my post here. And by saying 26.9 mpg supersedes the earlier post "26 mpg freeway," I took it you meant I reported 26.9 mpg in freeway driving. Now I get it: 26.9 was my overall average at the time. And that improved slightly to 27.3 mpg by 15,802 miles, when my son took the car.
 
Sorry, I don't keep track of percentage of city vs. highway driving; I just note when the car was used on a long trip. Besides, my wife drove both Camrys most of the time when we were not on a trip, and she's not about to keep such records!
 
However, now that I've begun using the '04 Camry for my daily commute, it will be interesting to see the kind of mileage I get. In my '98 Nissan Frontier, with pretty much the same routine day after day, I got 26 mpg time after time. We'll see how the '04 Camry fares under the same conditions -- I would expect better, but who knows?
#104 of 930
Re: What? I never said that. [phd86] by 210delray
Feb 28, 2006 (6:58 pm)
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Replying to: phd86 (Feb 27, 2006 9:19 pm)

So, what are you thoughts on this? You never said.
 
The trip itself (LA to central VA):
30.3 mpg (3767 miles, 124.32 gallons, 10 consecutive tankfuls) mostly 2-lane roads, 3 people, full trunk, cold temps a good deal of the way, and high altitudes in NV, UT, and CO. Also stopping and touring in towns and national parks along the way.

 
This is as good as it gets for real-world long-trip driving, at least in the winter on 2-lane roads. (This was in the '04 Camry 4-cyl 4A).
 
I suppose coast-to-coast at a steady 65 mph on I-80 with two people and light luggage in the summertime would do better, no?
#105 of 930
Re: - [dudleyr] by phd86
Feb 28, 2006 (8:32 pm)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Feb 28, 2006 12:38 pm)

1. The rpm is right around 2200 at 65 mph, I recall.
 
2. Ethanol blended fuel is available and I have tried it at least 5 times (I also keep track of the brand of fuel). It has no effect.
 
3. I know about the low rolling resistance tires and have used them on my other car. On that car, also a camry, I should tell you there was no difference in mileage on the cheapo dunlops versus the $600 MXV4's. They are quieter tires IMHO and wear better.
 
4. Tried a couple oils. Mainly castrol. I change every 3,000 and since it's not cold here, I doubt I'd save enough gas money with synthetics to make it worthwhile.
 
5. Odometer - I've not checked it specifically. Doubt that three camry's (two 2004, and one 2005) would all have errant odometers. I'll do that on both my cars and report back soon. Have you checked yours?
 
6. Can't respond to Sienna V6 - different animal.
#106 of 930
Re: What? I never said that. [210delray] by phd86
Feb 28, 2006 (8:50 pm)
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Replying to: 210delray (Feb 28, 2006 6:58 pm)

Since you ask,
 
I think what you are trying to say you would get some ungodly much greater mileage than 30 mpg, if you did similar driving that I do (no luggage constant 65 mph).
 
My other thoughts are: a) that this thing about weight probably makes little difference, b) you didn't do as much driving in city as you think you did, perhaps a couple hundred miles, but not a whole lot; and c) your definition of winter means you probably didn't use the A/C, but weren't really driving in mountains with snow and ice. Just some cool temperatures in southern parts of those states. I could be all wrong on that, but those are my thoughts.
 
BTW, do you have a favorite brand of gasoline, or recall the dominant brand on this trip of yours?

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