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Replying to: dudleyr (Dec 22, 2005 8:08 pm) terrain: flat |
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| Under those conditions the Camry should be getting better mileage. My Sienna does better than that at that speed. | |
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Replying to: guill (Dec 19, 2005 1:27 pm) IMO, no chance of that, so don't keep your hopes up, guill. I did an extensive search of all of the posts of MPG on this website and found that those who boasted 30+ mpg invariably did so based on a single tankful (which I attribute to an incomplete fillup) instead of a series (continuous fillups and odometer records) or a "computer" readout, with some providing so little data that I wondered if it wasn't just a "guess". Of those that reported a series, only one party reported as much as 28 mpg (all others lower), that was in the 2004 4-speed; he got reduced mileage in a newer 2005 5-speed automatic he bought subsequently. As I recall, he lives in a rural area with little, if any true, city driving. He reported ~30+ mpg once in a series of two tankfuls at 100% freeway. Expectations of routine 34 mpg fuel economy on this car are not only unreasonable, they just don't (and likely won't) happen. Even I have got one 30+ mpg tankful. But on a routine basis, NO. My guess is you will do NO MORE than 17 and 26 in the long term, which your 21.5 on a 60/40 would put you right in the middle.
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Yikes - just because one or two people get bad mileage does not mean everybody does. Look at Consumer reports to see real world accurately measured highway mileage for a Camry. It is well over 30 (don't have it infront of me. They even got 33 mpg with the Avalon. If my 6 cyl Sienna at 4,200 lbs gets 28 mpg at 65 a 4-cyl Camry weighing 3,200 lbs can certainly do much better.
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Replying to: phd86 (Dec 28, 2005 6:40 pm) Sounds like you're talking about me. Actually I got ~35 mpg on freeway trips with two fillups on the '04 Camry 4-cylinder, 4-speed auto. So far, I haven't gotten better than 31-32 mpg on long trips with the '05 4-cyl. 5-speed auto. But now, I've got some continuous long-trip data (cross-country) on the '04 Camry using the traditional trip meter divided by gallons used method. Keep in mind that the car was fairly heavily loaded this time, with 3 adults, a full trunk, and additional cargo in the left rear seat and floor. The car sagged somewhat in the rear, to the point that a few oncoming drivers "flashed" us at night because our low-beams were aimed upward somewhat. We traveled mainly off the interstates, on 2-lane roads, some nearly deserted. Speed limits are quite high in the West (65 mph in most states and 70 in Nevada). Temps were mild in LA, but very cold in the West, moderate in Missouri and Illinois, colder again in Indiana, Ohio, and West Virginia. We did not drive straight through, but stopped in national parks and small towns along the way (and drove around in these). 23.6 mpg: 289 miles in L.A. traffic + a side trip to northern San Diego County. 26.7 mpg: 379 miles, L.A. traffic, plus L.A. to Bishop, east central CA. 29.2 mpg: 316 miles, to Ely, eastern NV. 32.4 mpg: 403 miles, to Green River, eastern UT. 30.3 mpg: 429 miles, to Salida, east of the Rockies in CO. 31.2 mpg: 476 miles, to Spearville, western KS. 28.5 mpg: 409 miles, to Kansas City, MO. 35.5 mpg: 547 miles, to Spencer, western IN 25.5 mpg: 130 miles, to Bloomington and Indianapolis, IN, including driving in Indy on Christmas day. 31.1 mpg: 485 miles, Indianapolis to Elkins, north central WV. Average for entire trip: 29.8 mpg (3865 miles, 129.6 gallons) Average excluding first tank (LA traffic): 30.5 mpg (3575 miles, 117.4 gallons) I haven't yet refilled the tank after arriving home in central VA yesterday. So it seems to me with a lighter load, warmer temps, and continuous driving (no slowing to look at parks and towns), you should be able to do at least a few mpg better.
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Replying to: phd86 (Dec 28, 2005 6:40 pm) My guess is you will do NO MORE than 17 and 26 in the long term, which your 21.5 on a 60/40 would put you right in the middle." phd86, Perhaps your theory will be correct, however I submit that the few accounts (of fuel mileage) you've located on this website don't accurately represent a normal population. Respectfully, I'm a bit skeptical of any conclusions drawn from some anecdotal accounts without conducting a more complete analysis. Consumer Reports did conduct some mpg tests under controlled conditions. They averaged 24 mpg overall and averaged 34 mpg highway. Test vehicle was a 2005 Toyota Camry 2.4 4-cyl 5-spd auto. BTW, what did you get your doctoral in?
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Replying to: guill (Dec 29, 2005 1:49 pm) Of course, not all gas pumps are the same, and I don't want to take the risk of gas spilling out onto the car (or me). But most importantly, my long trip averaged out the mileage by using multiple tankfuls, a criticism of Phd before that so many people had based their mileage on 1 or 2 tanks. Based on what I got, I think Consumer Reports is right on the money, considering they don't run with a load or at higher altitudes like I did. I think Phd has a real problem with his car, based on his posts, but I don't know how you get Toyota to acknowledge it, what with the plethora of variants that affect gas mileage.
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Replying to: 210delray (Dec 29, 2005 7:21 pm) 210delray, I intended no offence by describing the reports (including yours) regarding observed Camry MPG as anecdotal. I was referring to the common definition of anecdotal, i.e. based on or consisting of reports or observations of usually unscientific observers . Again, no offence intended. Actually I find real-world observations very valuable, quite often they can be the more accurate results. "I think Phd has a real problem with his car, based on his posts, but I don't know how you get Toyota to acknowledge it, what with the plethora of variants that affect gas mileage." Yeah, tough one here. Previous to my Camry I owned a Honda Odyssey and visited a forum very similar to this one. We also had a poster who insisted Odyssey's weren't capable of achieving EPA estimates, though many of us actually exceeded the EPA's estimates on a consistent basis.
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Replying to: guill (Dec 30, 2005 4:02 am) On my cars in general, I've been able to at least equal the EPA's city rating and exceed the highway rating. However, this has NOT been the case with my 2005 Camry on the highway (the car not used for the cross-country trip).
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Replying to: 210delray (Dec 30, 2005 7:08 pm) How many miles do you have on your 05 Camry? The reason I ask is that the general school of thought seems to be that gas mileage improves after a car "breaks in." This typically seems to occur somewhere between 5000 and 10000 miles. I'm not mechanically inept, however I'm not certain of the explanation behind this phenomenon.
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