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#41 of 930 2005 Camry SE, 2.4L, 5-speed auto MPG report #3 by guill Nov 25, 2005 (2:21 pm)
11/25/2005: - 314 Miles - 15.98 Gallons - 19.65 mpg    Approximately 95/5 city/highway miles.    Changed the oil at 1820 miles; Mobil 7500 semi-synthetic 5w-30 and a WIX 51396 oil filter.
#42 of 930 2005 Camry XLE 4cy 5at by davidlucas Dec 01, 2005 (10:59 am)
23 mpg. local/freeway: 50/50. Replies to this message: lmacmil (Dec 01, 2005 2:42 pm) haefr (Dec 03, 2005 5:59 am) davidlucas (Dec 15, 2005 5:06 pm) lmacmil (Dec 18, 2005 1:34 pm)
#43 of 930 Re: 2005 Camry XLE 4cy 5at [davidlucas] by lmacmil Dec 01, 2005 (2:42 pm)
Replying to: davidlucas (Dec 01, 2005 10:59 am) Maybe my V6 mileage isn't so bad after all. I averaged over 22 mpg for the first 4000 miles with a 60/40 city/highway mix. Replies to this message: haefr (Dec 03, 2005 5:59 am)
#44 of 930 Re: 2005 Camry XLE 4cy 5at [lmacmil] by haefr Dec 03, 2005 (5:59 am)
Replying to: lmacmil (Dec 01, 2005 2:42 pm) Urban driving is a fuel mileage killer - near constant throttle changes and zero mpg while stopped at traffic lights Add to that the fact that the fact that the torque converter is maximally "slipping" since each startup necessitates accelerating the entire mass of the car and passenger(s) from dead stop inertia. You'll find out just how efficient that Toyota V6 can be when you run a several hundred mile trip at 70-75mph over relatively level terrain. Expect a pleasant surprise once the engine is allowed to loaf in overdrive at around 2,500 RPM at a near constant throttle opening and the transmission's torque converter is mechanically locked to crankshaft speed at constant speeds above 40 mph. Add to that the efficiency of only needing to maintain the car's momentum.
#45 of 930 2005 Toyota Camry STD 5 speed MT by hondaconvert1 Dec 03, 2005 (6:24 pm)
I am getting above 30-31 MPG 70% city 30% highway driving with less than 4k miles in my ODO and I still have the original oil since vehicle purchase. As an FYI, I do believe the original oil has special additives to break the engine... so keep it and change it with no fear at 5000 miles or less.
#46 of 930 2005 Camry SE, 2.4L, 5-speed auto MPG report #4 by guill Dec 09, 2005 (5:48 am)
12/08/2005: - 289.4 Miles - 13.15 Gallons - 22.00 mpg     Approximately 95/5 city/highway miles.     Total miles on car; 2235. Mileage seems to be improving as the engine breaks-in.
#47 of 930 The Persistant Myth of "Break-in" Oil by haefr Dec 09, 2005 (6:57 am)
There was a time - 40 years ago and earlier - when a special light viscosity oil (around "10" viscosity) was used to aid break-in of new engines, and was intended to be changed out to "30" viscosity motor oil no later than at the completion of the first 500 miles. But that was a time when computer numeric controlled machining wasn't even a pipe dream yet. Now with CNC machining and micropolishing of billets in combined steps at one machining stage, the unprecedented sample-to-sample precision elliminates the need for specialized break-in oils. (There's still final run-in "seating" taking place between sliding parts, but no where nearly the amount of wear metals are generated as were previously.) What is special during factory assembly is the use of high-molybdenum content assembly lubes at key bearing locations to minimize initial startup stress until oil pressure builds to supply oil to these areas. Honda is known to practice this technique, though I'd be surprised to have it verified they're alone in it. These goos quickly dissolve in the engine oil and provide added general protection during break-in - which most auto manufacturers indicate is adequately accomplished by 500 or 600 miles. (Hyundai and Kia recommend 55 mph reduced highway speeds for a full 1,200 miles. Trust me, it was torture.) The actual factory-fill oil is the same 5W-30 (or 5W-20 as used in some makes) API "SM"/ILSAC "GF-4" oil you can buy over the counter under various blender names. Though not identical, all motor oils meeting those industry standards are equivalent in use over the recommended oil change intervals. Since these are multi-viscosity motor oils, they easily meet the needs of cold and hot weather driving conditions in most circumstances without the need to change viscosity "weights" seasonally. The combination of high molybdenum content assembly goo and modern standard motor oils allow running the factory fill motor oil the full normal oil change. But, though considerably reduced from times past, wear metals are still highest during the first 500 - 600 miles. If you intend to keep the car a long while, the smart money is to "treat" your new ride to its first oil and filter change at about 600 miles. Though the engine builders make every reasonable effort to thoroughly rinse machined parts, some crud inevitably remains behind. The oil filter simply doesn't catch all the leftover factory flashings, sand-cast grit, and initial wear metals. I admit to some anality in the matter, but I'd rather get this crap out of circulation (literally!) sooner rather than later. Really, folks, what's ONE extra oil and filter change (less expense than one fuel fill-up) in the life of the car's overall expenses? Replies to this message: guill (Dec 09, 2005 10:51 am)
#48 of 930 Re: The Persistant Myth of "Break-in" Oil [haefr] by guill Dec 09, 2005 (10:51 am)
Replying to: haefr (Dec 09, 2005 6:57 am) Very well stated haefr. This is exactly why I decided to change my Toyota's factory fill early at 1800 miles. Not quite as early as you recommend, but still earlier than the 5000 miles recommended by Toyota.
#49 of 930 Re: 2005 Camry XLE 4cy 5at [davidlucas] by davidlucas Dec 15, 2005 (5:06 pm)
Replying to: davidlucas (Dec 01, 2005 10:59 am) I have been taking records of the gas and milage ever since I bought this vehicle 3 weeks ago. The latest gas milage is 24.76 mpg. The thing is, the trip computer shows a 28.8 mpg. Is the manufacturer playing a trick here? Replies to this message: lmacmil (Dec 18, 2005 1:34 pm)
#50 of 930 - by dudleyr Dec 15, 2005 (6:22 pm)
Do you reset the trip computer when you put in gas? If you even wait for a few miles it will throw the reading off. My toyota computer seems spot on - sometimes a shade lower than my calcs, and sometimes a shade higher.

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