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#158 of 930 Re: 2007 Camry LE 4 cyl [janderson8] by keisl Apr 30, 2006 (9:35 am)
Replying to: janderson8 (Apr 29, 2006 1:45 pm) Well, the "EPA sets mpg in 'ideal' conditions" and "Nobody is getting the mileage they should be right now" - which is blamed on what is being added to the gasoline.   Since the check engine light isn't on - "there is nothing wrong with the car". When I talked to the dealer, they gave me the number for customer service. I was told that this was the second call today for the same issue, then was passed on to 'report' the issue. Unless enough people say something, they won't even look into it to see if there is a problem, and with how 'stupid' everybody treats you, you don't want to push the issue. When asked if I always pushed the trip reset when I re-filled the tank, I looked at the guy and said, "I'm not an idiot".   How can you advertise a number you know to be inaccurate and say that the car gets great gas mileage for the type of car..... Replies to this message: janderson8 (Apr 30, 2006 10:42 am)
#159 of 930 Re: 2007 Camry LE 4 cyl [keisl] by janderson8 Apr 30, 2006 (10:42 am)
Replying to: keisl (Apr 30, 2006 9:35 am) I agree! If we always got mileage under the rated numbers, I could blame our driving, but that isn't the case. If the numbers were within 5% of the rated mileage, I wouldn't have a problem, but 20% to 25% under is too much! The dealer doesn't seem to care once the car is sold. Next time we buy, we'll insist on a several 100 mile test drive before signing or accepting the car. If the dealer won't agree, then we'll find a different car to buy.
#160 of 930 My two cents by 210delray Apr 30, 2006 (5:07 pm)
I don't know how anybody can drive 80-85 mph and expect to come close the EPA highway mpg. Did you know the highway test is run at a simulated average speed of 48 mph with a top speed of 60 mph? Also, the a/c is not used during the test.   Even so, the EPA takes 22% off the highway mpg test value to "adjust" for more realistic conditions -- this has been done since the 1985 model year, and this is what gets posted on the window sticker. The adjustment for the city mpg is 10%.   As I reported before, my '04 Camry LE 4-cyl. 4A gets about 23 mpg in the city (small town in our case) and about 35-38 mpg on the highway (going no faster than 65-70 mph posted speeds in our area). I got 30+ mpg overall on our 3600-mile Los Angeles to central VA road trip this past December, with 3 people and a full load of cargo, driving mostly on 2-lane roads, up to a legal 75 mph on western interstates.   My '05 Camry XLE 4-cyl. 5A doesn't do as well - about 21 mpg in town and 32 mpg on trips. Replies to this message: janderson8 (Apr 30, 2006 5:52 pm) ray_h1 (Apr 30, 2006 7:32 pm) 210delray (May 01, 2006 6:47 am) lmacmil (May 01, 2006 3:13 pm) keisl (May 01, 2006 10:24 pm) ezshift5 (May 08, 2006 7:11 am)
#161 of 930 Re: My two cents [210delray] by janderson8 Apr 30, 2006 (5:52 pm)
Replying to: 210delray (Apr 30, 2006 5:07 pm) I would be overjoyed if I could get your numbers for our 2000 4 cyl. Camry LE. I never drive 80 or even 70 mph and am very careful while driving around town to maximize our mileage, yet never do better than 20 mpg (city) and usually only 18 to 19 in summer and 17-18 in winter. My trips are usually 5 miles long, so that could account for a mile or so less, but not 5-6 mpg. I think some engines just come off the assembly line with less than optimal efficiency, and we got one of those...or there is a faulty part the dealer doesn't want to look for. We have never gotten 30 on the road. I think ONCE in 6 years we averaged 29 on a long trip driving back from Colorado, mostly downhill with a tail wind. Otherwise about 25-26.   What grade of gas do you use? Do you think the CA rules for cars make cars sold in CA more efficient than those sold other places? Replies to this message: ray_h1 (Apr 30, 2006 7:32 pm) 210delray (May 01, 2006 6:47 am)
#162 of 930 Re: My two cents [janderson8] by ray_h1 Apr 30, 2006 (7:32 pm)
Replying to: janderson8 (Apr 30, 2006 5:52 pm) In California your car's I4 engine is set up as a "PZEV" (Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle) for minimal emissions which also combines to further reduce fuel economy - particularly at low speeds. On the off-chance that there is a defect in your car, rather than continue fighting with your selling dealership, why not try a different dealership's service department. There's nothing in your warranty that obligates you to go to a particular dealership for warranty service. On the plus side, PZEV compliant vehicles' emissions systems are warranted for 15 yrs./150,000 miles.
#163 of 930 Re: 2005 Camry SE V-6 [ray_h1] by lev1 Apr 30, 2006 (8:20 pm)
Replying to: ray_h1 (Apr 18, 2006 9:28 am) Boy, do I LOVE pundits who keep blabbing about "imaginary to imperceptible" even AFTER given exact features that higher grade gas has brought to me (as well, as Toyota saying the same in writing)! Taking into account that he also comments on a bunch of other cars, he must either have the big garage or is a paper tiger who gets his information from EPA hand-outs. If you drive as if you are steering a luxobarge, 87 is just fine, for better gear shifts higher grade delivers - I hate that auto transmission hiccup when it downshifts and loses all the power in the middle of the sharp turn. Replies to this message: lmacmil (May 01, 2006 3:12 pm) dhg (May 27, 2006 12:19 am)
#164 of 930 Re: My two cents [janderson8] by 210delray May 01, 2006 (6:47 am)
Replying to: janderson8 (Apr 30, 2006 5:52 pm) I always use regular (87 octane). The only exception was when we were in NV, UT, and CO (high altitude), and we used plus, which was 87 or 88 octane depending on the brand. (Regular was 85 octane in these areas.)   Short trips are killers for city mpg -- at 5 miles, your engine won't even be fully warmed up in the winter. Add in extensive idling at traffic lights and your mileage will go down even more. I don't have an explanation for your poor highway mileage though.   As ray_h1 said, CA cars would probably be a little less fuel efficient.
#165 of 930 Re: My two cents [210delray] by lmacmil May 01, 2006 (3:13 pm)
Replying to: 210delray (Apr 30, 2006 5:07 pm) "I don't know how anybody can drive 80-85 mph and expect to come close the EPA highway mpg."   You must not have read the guy's post on the entry level sports sedan board who claims to get well in excess of 30 mpg in his 3 series BMW at 90 mph. I'm a little skeptical Replies to this message: keisl (May 01, 2006 10:24 pm) ezshift5 (May 08, 2006 7:11 am)
#166 of 930 Re: 2005 Camry SE V-6 [lev1] by lmacmil May 01, 2006 (3:12 pm)
Replying to: lev1 (Apr 30, 2006 8:20 pm) I think people forget (or won't acknowledge) that if an engine is optimized for premium fuel, it can run on regular with reduced performance (and maybe mileage). OTOH, a car optimized for regular will not benefit from premium.   So are you saying your downshift hesitation is reduced when running premium instead of regular?
#167 of 930 06 camry at 2.4 cyl mpg by bjw1 May 01, 2006 (6:34 pm)
i recently came back from a weekend trip and got 32 mpg on highway going 80-90 even going up hills, i know sticker said 34 but that is pretty good since i was driving so fast , tripodometer was at 278 mi and still on half tank mark, my camry now has 5000 miles, but with gas prices lately i wont be driving anywhere anytime soon. Replies to this message: njerald (May 01, 2006 6:36 pm)

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