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#114 of 930
- by dudleyr
Mar 14, 2006 (2:41 pm)
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It does not take much city mileage to really hurt the highway mileage. Really it makes more sense to compare the amount of time driving each not the amount of miles (if you are estimating).
 
You can drive 50 miles hwy and 50 city, but if the highway takes 45 minutes, and the city takes 3 hours, then the vast majority of your driving is in the city. It is gallons used in city vs gallons used on the highway that is important, not the number of miles driven.
 
Say you drive a car that gets 25 mpg on the highway. 50 miles is 2 gallons. The same car gets 10 mpg in the city and uses 5 gallons. If the miles driven was a controlling factor, then the mpg should be 35 mpg (25 + 10) divided by 2 or 17.5 mpg, since equel miles were drivin under each circumstance. In reality the car got 100 miles divided by 7 gallons, or 14.3 mpg.
 
Don't forget you can't really compare city driving, unless the same person drives the same route under the same conditions. Highway is more repeatable, but there are still plenty of variables.
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Re: What? I never said that. [phd86] by 210delray
Mar 15, 2006 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: phd86 (Mar 14, 2006 1:35 pm)

Ok, believe what you want. There's no way my record keeping will be detailed enough to satisfy you.
 
I did keep some pretty detailed mileage logs for the cross-country trip, but I didn't specifically log miles driven in towns vs. highway mileage. My mileage recordings had the start and end points for each day, as well as key intersections, state lines, larger towns, points of interest, etc. along the way.
 
Here's what I have (again) on the '04 Camry:
 
04 LE 4 cyl 4A:
Overall mileage from 19 miles (new, with a full tank of gas) to 15,802 miles:
27.3 mpg (15,783 miles, 578.84 gallons)
  
Best 3 highway mileage readings in that period (with 2 consecutive tankfuls):
35.5 mpg (709.5 miles, 20.01 gallons) mostly freeway
34.9 mpg (815.1 miles, 23.37 gallons) mostly freeway
30.4 mpg (686.9 miles, 22.62 gallons) mostly divided highway w/ traffic lights.
  
Worst 3 city (small town in our case) mileage readings in that period (single tankful, but at least 10 gallons added):
22.4 mpg (234.6 miles, 10.47 gallons)
23.1 mpg (267.1 miles, 11.54 gallons)
23.1 mpg (241.0 miles, 10.45 gallons)

 
I cannot do what you asked (drive the car only in town for 3 weeks), since I have to go to work. What I am going to do, which I said before, is use the '04 Camry for commuting in place of my '98 Nissan Frontier, which got 26 mpg consistently (tank after tank), because it was driven almost the same way for each tankful. We'll see if the '04 Camry can do better.
 
I also will follow up on the overall mileage to date (excluding the time my son had the car) on the '04 Camry, now with 34,600+ miles, as well as info on the '05 Camry, which now has 11,000+ miles. As I said before, the '05 Camry definitely does not do as well as the '04, even though it has the same engine (but 5-speed auto instead of 4-speed auto).
#116 of 930
- by dudleyr
Mar 15, 2006 (7:53 pm)
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Data looks good to me. Splitting hairs to need more accuracy than that. You can never accurately compare city between two different routes, but will be interesting to see what the commute in the Camry yields.
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Re: What? I never said that. [210delray] by mattgg1
Mar 16, 2006 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Mar 15, 2006 7:16 pm)

As I said before, the '05 Camry definitely does not do as well as the '04, even though it has the same engine (but 5-speed auto instead of 4-speed auto).
 
I have a question regarding you 05' Camry getting worse gas mileage than your 04'. Why do you think this is?
#118 of 930
Re: What? I never said that. [mattgg1] by 210delray
Mar 16, 2006 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: mattgg1 (Mar 16, 2006 10:21 am)

I haven't the slightest idea, because the engine turns at lower rpm at highway speeds on the '05. 65 mph translates to 2000 rpm on the '05 and 2400 rpm on the '04.
 
I'm wondering if the break-in procedure for the two cars was different enough to cause it. (One of my earlier posts in this thread explains this.)
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Re: What? I never said that. [210delray] by mattgg1
Mar 16, 2006 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: 210delray (Mar 16, 2006 10:45 am)

Do you know if there is a substantial weight difference between the '04 and '05?
 
I'm very curious about the break-in procedure for new cars. Could you tell me the post # of the thread you are referring to?
 
I've never owned a new car, so I've never had to worry about the break-in. However, I will be purchasing a new Camry or Accord (I haven't decided yet) soon, so I'd like to do whatever it takes to maximize fuel efficiency for the life of the car.
#120 of 930
Re: What? I never said that. [mattgg1] by pat HOST
Mar 16, 2006 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: mattgg1 (Mar 16, 2006 3:19 pm)

Here's a tip for you: You can use the Search This Discussion feature for a member's name to find all of his or her posts in any one discussion.
 
The search box located just above the first post and just below the last.
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2005 Camry SE, 2.4L, 5-speed auto MPG report #11 by guill
Mar 17, 2006 (3:51 am)
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3/15/2006:
- 326.1 Miles
- 14.38 Gallons
- 22.67 mpg
         
90/10 city/highway miles
         
Total miles on car--4437
#122 of 930
Re: 2005 Camry XLE, 2.4L, 4-spd auto [dmtucker] by wvg
Mar 18, 2006 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: dmtucker (Nov 08, 2005 7:06 pm)

I owned 2 different camry's --an 03 le 4cyl and an 04 xle 4cyl and agree that these 4 cyl engines are surprisingly noisy and buzzy. In fact I just traded the 04 xle 4 cyl for an 06 xle v6, and what a difference. I always thought the extra money for the v6 was too much, but not any more. this car drives like a dream and the trip computer seems accurate on this car. (way too optimistic on my 04) I only have about 700 miles on it but have been getting around 23-24 mpg 50/50 city highway.
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Re: What? I never said that. [210delray] by phd86
Mar 22, 2006 (8:23 pm)
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Replying to: 210delray (Mar 15, 2006 7:16 pm)

I think I'm beginning to understand, 210delray:
 
You live in a small town, probably minimal traffic at all, you need your car to commute, and so your reports (in my opinion - and I'm sure you'll address this) vary from alot of freeway driving to a heckuvalot of freeway driving. 22-23 mpg in small town driving, with someone going to work 5 days a week - I'm thinking there is some freeway driving in those city tankfuls. Is that true?
 
It will take 4-6 weeks to get you some comparative numbers on shell gas (my current tank is Arco).
 
Its not a matter of "believing"; you didn't record your relative freeway and highway driving. your 27 mpg , if predominantly freeway, is not out of line with the predominantly freeway mileage I get (for me, I would get that in 85% or more freeway). I think I drive more city than you.
 
As for your posts of 30-35 mpg. I have three things to say. One is WOW. The second is that is your best mpg, not your average (27 mpg). And the third is that your indication of 20-23 gallons of refill, which exceed the specification of 18.5 gallons, gave me some pause. I've run tanks dry on rare occasions, but I've never been able to put much more in than the specification. I look forward to your explanation/response.

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