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Replying to: 210delray (Mar 04, 2006 9:10 pm) a) you have no evidence at all of any significant relationship of weight load to mileage, and nothing from your prior posts supports greater mileage. b) don't buy guesses on what you drove unless you recorded it. I've been to most of those small towns. It does not take that much driving to do site-seeing. If you didn't record it, you don't know. You are guessing. c) likewise, you have no evidence at all of the effect of cold air temperatures on mileage; your comments of temperatures "as low as" this or that indicates that those were the daily lows. I'm not sure whether your point was that lower temperatures increase, decrease, or have no effect on mileage. The other thought is that this "excellent" road maintenance indicates there was no snow or ice on the roads. Now, as far as my car (2004 LE)....I don't have my records in front of me, but I filled it up yesterday, and went a whopping 349 miles on 16.2 gallons, or 21.54 miles per gallon. That's the best mileage this car has got in about 5 tankfuls; but occurred with more freeway miles - 31.52% freeway (i.e., overdrive, no stopping, 60-65 mph, roundtrip from Sacramento to Lockeford, 110 miles, 110/349 = .3152). YIPPEE! But no arguments here. We're just exchanging ideas, right? So I have one for you. Do you have another car? If so, why not drive your camry for three consecutive tankfuls with zero highway miles, that is, none at all. In return, I'll switch to shell, and we can exchange data. My prediction is that you will get alot closer to CR's 16 mpg than you will to EPA's 23.
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It does not take much city mileage to really hurt the highway mileage. Really it makes more sense to compare the amount of time driving each not the amount of miles (if you are estimating). You can drive 50 miles hwy and 50 city, but if the highway takes 45 minutes, and the city takes 3 hours, then the vast majority of your driving is in the city. It is gallons used in city vs gallons used on the highway that is important, not the number of miles driven. Say you drive a car that gets 25 mpg on the highway. 50 miles is 2 gallons. The same car gets 10 mpg in the city and uses 5 gallons. If the miles driven was a controlling factor, then the mpg should be 35 mpg (25 + 10) divided by 2 or 17.5 mpg, since equel miles were drivin under each circumstance. In reality the car got 100 miles divided by 7 gallons, or 14.3 mpg. Don't forget you can't really compare city driving, unless the same person drives the same route under the same conditions. Highway is more repeatable, but there are still plenty of variables. |
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Replying to: phd86 (Mar 14, 2006 1:35 pm) I did keep some pretty detailed mileage logs for the cross-country trip, but I didn't specifically log miles driven in towns vs. highway mileage. My mileage recordings had the start and end points for each day, as well as key intersections, state lines, larger towns, points of interest, etc. along the way. Here's what I have (again) on the '04 Camry: 04 LE 4 cyl 4A: Overall mileage from 19 miles (new, with a full tank of gas) to 15,802 miles: 27.3 mpg (15,783 miles, 578.84 gallons) Best 3 highway mileage readings in that period (with 2 consecutive tankfuls): 35.5 mpg (709.5 miles, 20.01 gallons) mostly freeway 34.9 mpg (815.1 miles, 23.37 gallons) mostly freeway 30.4 mpg (686.9 miles, 22.62 gallons) mostly divided highway w/ traffic lights. Worst 3 city (small town in our case) mileage readings in that period (single tankful, but at least 10 gallons added): 22.4 mpg (234.6 miles, 10.47 gallons) 23.1 mpg (267.1 miles, 11.54 gallons) 23.1 mpg (241.0 miles, 10.45 gallons) I cannot do what you asked (drive the car only in town for 3 weeks), since I have to go to work. What I am going to do, which I said before, is use the '04 Camry for commuting in place of my '98 Nissan Frontier, which got 26 mpg consistently (tank after tank), because it was driven almost the same way for each tankful. We'll see if the '04 Camry can do better. I also will follow up on the overall mileage to date (excluding the time my son had the car) on the '04 Camry, now with 34,600+ miles, as well as info on the '05 Camry, which now has 11,000+ miles. As I said before, the '05 Camry definitely does not do as well as the '04, even though it has the same engine (but 5-speed auto instead of 4-speed auto).
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| Data looks good to me. Splitting hairs to need more accuracy than that. You can never accurately compare city between two different routes, but will be interesting to see what the commute in the Camry yields. | |
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Replying to: 210delray (Mar 15, 2006 7:16 pm) I have a question regarding you 05' Camry getting worse gas mileage than your 04'. Why do you think this is?
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Replying to: mattgg1 (Mar 16, 2006 10:21 am) I'm wondering if the break-in procedure for the two cars was different enough to cause it. (One of my earlier posts in this thread explains this.)
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Replying to: 210delray (Mar 16, 2006 10:45 am) I'm very curious about the break-in procedure for new cars. Could you tell me the post # of the thread you are referring to? I've never owned a new car, so I've never had to worry about the break-in. However, I will be purchasing a new Camry or Accord (I haven't decided yet) soon, so I'd like to do whatever it takes to maximize fuel efficiency for the life of the car.
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Replying to: mattgg1 (Mar 16, 2006 3:19 pm) The search box located just above the first post and just below the last. |
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3/15/2006: - 326.1 Miles - 14.38 Gallons - 22.67 mpg 90/10 city/highway miles Total miles on car--4437 |
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Replying to: dmtucker (Nov 08, 2005 7:06 pm) |
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