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Replying to: phd86 (Feb 27, 2006 9:19 pm) The trip itself (LA to central VA): 30.3 mpg (3767 miles, 124.32 gallons, 10 consecutive tankfuls) mostly 2-lane roads, 3 people, full trunk, cold temps a good deal of the way, and high altitudes in NV, UT, and CO. Also stopping and touring in towns and national parks along the way. This is as good as it gets for real-world long-trip driving, at least in the winter on 2-lane roads. (This was in the '04 Camry 4-cyl 4A). I suppose coast-to-coast at a steady 65 mph on I-80 with two people and light luggage in the summertime would do better, no?
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Replying to: dudleyr (Feb 28, 2006 12:38 pm) 2. Ethanol blended fuel is available and I have tried it at least 5 times (I also keep track of the brand of fuel). It has no effect. 3. I know about the low rolling resistance tires and have used them on my other car. On that car, also a camry, I should tell you there was no difference in mileage on the cheapo dunlops versus the $600 MXV4's. They are quieter tires IMHO and wear better. 4. Tried a couple oils. Mainly castrol. I change every 3,000 and since it's not cold here, I doubt I'd save enough gas money with synthetics to make it worthwhile. 5. Odometer - I've not checked it specifically. Doubt that three camry's (two 2004, and one 2005) would all have errant odometers. I'll do that on both my cars and report back soon. Have you checked yours? 6. Can't respond to Sienna V6 - different animal. |
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Replying to: 210delray (Feb 28, 2006 6:58 pm) I think what you are trying to say you would get some ungodly much greater mileage than 30 mpg, if you did similar driving that I do (no luggage constant 65 mph). My other thoughts are: a) that this thing about weight probably makes little difference, b) you didn't do as much driving in city as you think you did, perhaps a couple hundred miles, but not a whole lot; and c) your definition of winter means you probably didn't use the A/C, but weren't really driving in mountains with snow and ice. Just some cool temperatures in southern parts of those states. I could be all wrong on that, but those are my thoughts. BTW, do you have a favorite brand of gasoline, or recall the dominant brand on this trip of yours?
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3/04/2006: - 321.5 Miles - 13.79 Gallons - 23.31 mpg 90/10 city/highway miles Total miles on car--4111 |
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Replying to: phd86 (Feb 28, 2006 8:50 pm) On my cross-country trip: a) I don't see how the extra weight could not have bogged down the mileage: about 470 pounds for the 3 people, plus the trunk was fully loaded (including heavy items like a nightstand and books), as was the left rear seat (upholstered dining-room type chair, small end table, and more books). I would not be surprised if we were close to the max payload of the car (900 pounds). b) We accumulated 90 miles in Arches Nat'l Park alone (admittedly not a city, but all speed limits there were 45 mph or less, with lots of starts and stops for overlooks and short walks). We also spent lots of time touring small towns for their architectural glories, including in CO alone the towns of Delta, Montrose, Gunnison, Salida, Canon City, and Pueblo. So a LOT more than 200 miles was accumulated in towns. c) We saw temps as low as +10 degrees (F) in eastern NV, +15 in eastern Utah, +14 on Monarch Pass, CO, and closer to home, +24 on Cheat Mountain, WV. There most definitely was snow and ice present, generally not ON the road, because of excellent salting and snow plowing, in all of the higher altitude areas of NV, UT, CO, and WV, as well as western KS. We first traveled north out of the LA basin and then basically east along US routes 6, 50, 56, and farther on, I-70, SR 32 (Ohio), and US 250. Only on one day did temps exceed 60 degrees. The most common brand of gas we used happened to be Shell, using the lowest grade of 87 (except midgrade 87 or 88 in the high-altitude areas of NV, UT, and CO).
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| After 105,000 miles, the overall average in 28.3 MPG, adjusted for the 3.2% odo error (low). Highest observed over at least 1,000 miles is 32 MPG, running at a steady 65-70 MPH with non-ethanol gas and no A/C. The mileage is very sensitive to tire pressure; I keep it at 32 LB. A/C reduces mileage by about 1.5 MPG. Lowest observed is winter driving where it drops to about 22 MPG. | |
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I'm getting pretty consistant 27 MPG. 80% city 20 % highway. Actually maybe even more city then 80%. I keep the wheels full of air. I just started running Mobil 1 synthetic not sure if it has upped the mileage any, it may have. Also it's an automatic with 77,000 miles in Florida Ac running all of its life. |
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| We own a 1998 Toyota Camry Le, with 115,000 miles, we get around 23-25 MPG in winter, and in the summer, 28-32 MPG. We have the 2.2 4cyl. | |
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Replying to: 210delray (Mar 04, 2006 9:10 pm) a) you have no evidence at all of any significant relationship of weight load to mileage, and nothing from your prior posts supports greater mileage. b) don't buy guesses on what you drove unless you recorded it. I've been to most of those small towns. It does not take that much driving to do site-seeing. If you didn't record it, you don't know. You are guessing. c) likewise, you have no evidence at all of the effect of cold air temperatures on mileage; your comments of temperatures "as low as" this or that indicates that those were the daily lows. I'm not sure whether your point was that lower temperatures increase, decrease, or have no effect on mileage. The other thought is that this "excellent" road maintenance indicates there was no snow or ice on the roads. Now, as far as my car (2004 LE)....I don't have my records in front of me, but I filled it up yesterday, and went a whopping 349 miles on 16.2 gallons, or 21.54 miles per gallon. That's the best mileage this car has got in about 5 tankfuls; but occurred with more freeway miles - 31.52% freeway (i.e., overdrive, no stopping, 60-65 mph, roundtrip from Sacramento to Lockeford, 110 miles, 110/349 = .3152). YIPPEE! But no arguments here. We're just exchanging ideas, right? So I have one for you. Do you have another car? If so, why not drive your camry for three consecutive tankfuls with zero highway miles, that is, none at all. In return, I'll switch to shell, and we can exchange data. My prediction is that you will get alot closer to CR's 16 mpg than you will to EPA's 23.
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