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#954 of 981 Re: Fuel tank Capacity [cbrunson1] by thegraduate Apr 26, 2009 (8:37 pm)
Replying to: cbrunson1 (Apr 26, 2009 6:49 pm) If you'll read a little deeper, they're actually "boo-hooing" for your car's well-being.   You want an extra 100 miles per tank (while not saving a dime) and don't care what it does to your car , be my guest.
#955 of 981 Re: Fuel tank Capacity [cmexhausting] by kipk Apr 27, 2009 (4:43 am)
Replying to: cmexhausting (Apr 26, 2009 4:24 pm) >" The book says I have a 20 gallon tank.......then I have to dribble in the next 6 gallons to full 23.5 gallons takes about 7 minutes just to top off. Is this normal."   Fuel tanks have an air space built in. They do this by having the filler tube going into the side of the tank rather than the top of the tank. The air space is there for a good reason. It is possible to "cram" more fuel into the tank by picking a pump that allows the Pilot to lean to the right and/or forward. This allows more of the air to escape and be replaced with fuel. Then when the car is level, the fuel tank is over filled.   This practice can result in problems with the car, even though the owner is not aware of them. Poor mileage may be one of the resulting problems. 21 mpg is not real good for a 2wd, at a consistent 70 mpg, unless you are driving in the mountains.   When you wait for the fuel light to come on and the tank readily takes 17.5 gallons that is about right. Leaving a reserve of 2.5 gallons when the light comes on.   Bad habits eventually catch up with us, one way or the other. For instance: The light comes on, signaling there is about 2.5 gallons left in the tank. We get stuck in a bad traffic jam or the station we are counting on to be open isn't, or....!   What is wrong with stopping every once in a while, grabbing a drink, or just stretching the legs and topping off fuel until the click when the tank gets down to 1/4?   Kip
#956 of 981 Fuel Tank by bobnc Apr 28, 2009 (11:20 am)
My Honda pilot owners book indicates that my 2009 Pilot has a 21.00 US gal. capacity.   I drive mostly on the Interstate at 65-70 MPH. My adverage has been 23.5 MPG.   My Pilot is AWD. Replies to this message: poodog13 (Apr 29, 2009 7:07 am) bobnc (Apr 29, 2009 3:34 pm)
#957 of 981 Re: Fuel Tank [bobnc] by poodog13 Apr 29, 2009 (7:07 am)
Replying to: bobnc (Apr 28, 2009 11:20 am) What part of the country? Most of my highway driving is between Pittsburgh and DC via the Cumberland, MD area (semi-mountainous terrain) and because of that I only get around 19.5 MPG. Replies to this message: bobnc (Apr 29, 2009 3:34 pm)
#958 of 981 Re: Fuel Tank [poodog13] by bobnc Apr 29, 2009 (3:34 pm)
Replying to: poodog13 (Apr 29, 2009 7:07 am) Most of my driving is in western NC, I-40, I 26 and I-81 in VA. and into WV to Lewisburg area. Two people with luggage. On a trip to FL I had an adverage of 24.9 mpg. I use cruse control as much as possible. Drive at 60 to 65 mph.
#959 of 981 Still Improving by justaveragejoe May 07, 2009 (12:00 pm)
My 2007 AWD has around 18,000 miles on it now. My regular commuting mileage has slowly improved from around 18 to around 20 mpg. Best tank ever was 24.5 mpg.   Mine doesn't have the VCM like the new Pilots or the higher gearing like Kip's Pilot. Replies to this message: kipk (May 08, 2009 3:45 am) kipk (May 08, 2009 5:06 am)
#960 of 981 Re: Still Improving [justaveragejoe] by kipk May 08, 2009 (3:45 am)
Replying to: justaveragejoe (May 07, 2009 12:00 pm) Joe,   There are 225 TSB's on my 03' Pilot. One of them deals with Engine not reaching operating temperature.   http://www.edmunds.com/maintenance/recalltsb.html?styleId=100076605&engCode=6VNA- - G3.5&transCode=AUTOMATIC&mileage=36%2C000&zip=30215&type=tsb&serviceType=#48   I still believe that it possible, some of the Pilots are not reaching proper operating temp, This could be something as simple as a faulty thermostat.   If it doesn't reach proper temp, it may not lean out like it should and fuel mileage suffer. Don't know if any error code would be registered. Very possible no codes would register because all sensors are dealing with a "cool" engine. So they may not sense a rich condition as a fault, because the temp is still calling for "rich".   The Scan Gauge II is the handiest gadget I've found in a long time. It shows lots of engine data as well as various fuel mileage configurations.   I've found that even though the temp gauge in the dash shows the engine to be warm, the actual temp may be in the 165 range. Once fully warm the temp goes to 181-182. Sometimes as high as 190 in heavy traffic.   The SG has helped me improve mileage an additional 1-2 mpg over and above the mileage it was already getting. My Pilot, has been averaging 17-19 in local driving. I gave enough throttle to allow the tranny to shift at 2000 rpm without lifting my foot. Surprise to me that allowing the shifts to take place at 2200 rpm, without lifting the foot, seems to have helped the MPG by about 1 mpg local. Much over 2200 and the mileage drops back off again. A couple of other things have allowed the local driving to creep up to 19-21 average.   On the "X-way" there is very little difference between 60 and 65 mph. But 70 mph drops mileage about 5 mpg. 80 mph is awful!   In local driving, does anyone "KNOW" if the car gets better mileage at 45 while the torque converter is still unlocked, or at 50 when the TC has locked up? Asked that question because most of my commute route has a 45 mph speed limit. So that question "Bugged" me. Now I actually know.   This gauge has more than paid for itself as entertainment. Getting better mileage is a wonderful side effect.   Kip Replies to this message: kipk (May 08, 2009 5:06 am)
#961 of 981 Re: Still Improving [kipk] by kipk May 08, 2009 (5:06 am)
Replying to: kipk (May 08, 2009 3:45 am) update to post 960   # 41 (on above link) states a code P-0128 associated with thermostat insufficient temperature. However, that doesn't necessarily mean the computer will pick up on it. "Little things mean a lot".   Kip
#962 of 981 Just bought 08 preowned 13.5 MPG by pnara09 May 19, 2009 (9:57 pm)
Hi   Just bought 08 pre-owned and getting 13.5 MPG. Very disappointed. Vehicle has 13000 miles on it. Thinking is this the reason why earlier owner traded-in the vehicle. it is Honda certified, can I expect any help form the dealer to improve mileage? Replies to this message: kipk (May 20, 2009 2:37 am) jimbomar (May 20, 2009 7:37 am)
#963 of 981 Re: Just bought 08 preowned 13.5 MPG [pnara09] by kipk May 20, 2009 (2:37 am)
Replying to: pnara09 (May 19, 2009 9:57 pm) What type of driving are you doing? City, back road, X-ways How long is the typical drive?   Example: My commute to work is 6.5--7.5 miles, in light traffic. There are 3 + traffic lights- depending on which route I take. Can usually run the 35-45 posted speed limits and often able to time the lights to my advantage.   Most trips are similar to the work commute, but shorter.   The heavier the traffic the worse the mileage.   One frequent commute is 4 miles. With a cold engine on cold days the mileage is in the low teens. With a warn engine on mild days, (without AC) the mileage can be 21+. If not careful with the throttle, those can easily drop 2-3 mpg.   Recently got stopped on the X-Way. Crept along between stopped and low gear for a couple of miles for about a half hour. Mileage was horrible!   So, what type driving, what type traffic, what type terrain, what type load is normal for you?   Kip

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