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Re: Tire friction [joemama33] by steve_ HOST
Jan 24, 2009 (9:36 pm)
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Replying to: joemama33 (Jan 24, 2009 3:17 pm)

The manufacturer works with tire reps to get a good compromise tire pressure that they put on the tire placard on your doorjamb. The psi rating on the sidewall is the maximum allowable but has nothing to do with the tire's ride, safety and performance on your particular vehicle.
 
Over-inflating your tires will reduce their contact patch with the road and that's not safe. And they are more easily damaged if you hit a pothole. And they will make your ride noisier.
 
Tire Rack
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Re: SUDDEN MILEAGE DROP [tidester] by kipk
Jan 26, 2009 (3:35 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Jan 23, 2009 11:03 am)

I could be wrong:
 
It was/is my understanding that a wider tire creates more friction even though it has the same tread design and tread composition of the narrower one.
Thus the reason that a "road" bicycle tire is built so that it is only "running" on the very narrow center tread. Actually the tires on our two mountain bikes are also designed to run on the narrow center "Band" or tread when on hard surfaces. On rough or soft surfaces the aggressive tread can contact the ground.
 
From personal experience I know that a bicycle with 30# air pressure requires much more energy to peddle than one with say 50#. And a car with higher tire pressure will get better mileage than one that is at under inflated or even correct pressures. Suggesting less energy required from the engine for higher inflated tires. Lower pressure allows more of the tire to contact the road . At least it sure seems that way to me.
 
As you say, an over inflated tire can be dangerous. Main reason being that it will be ballooned so that the center of the tread is taking more of the vehicle weight than the outer tread and there is less contact on the road, for emergency. Mileage may increase, but premature wear of the center treads may also.
 
Most tires wear out on the outer treads first, because folks don't check the pressure often enough, and run the tires under inflated. This will also result in poorer fuel mileage.
 
Works for me!
 
Kip
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Re: SUDDEN MILEAGE DROP [kipk] by tidester HOST
Jan 26, 2009 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: kipk (Jan 26, 2009 3:35 am)

That's a slightly different effect and has to do with the amount of work required to deform the rubber. Underinflated tires deform to a greater extent than properly inflated tires and the end result is greater resistance to rolling. Underinflated tires also have a larger contact patch. Friction between the road and tire depends only on the composition of the tire and the weight of the car and not on the size of the contact patch.
 
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Re: SUDDEN MILEAGE DROP [tidester] by kipk
Jan 27, 2009 (3:42 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Jan 26, 2009 11:15 am)

You seem very sure of that and are most likely right.
 
I just makes more sense to me that if a tire 6" wide has a given resistance, then a tire identical, but wider, would have an increased resistance. Other than the fact that it is heavier and so forth. Somewhat, but to a lesser degree, like a car moving through the air. The larger frontal area has more resistance.
 
Oh well !
 
Thanks,
Kip
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extremely bad mpg by Azudi
Feb 18, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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Leased 09 pilot, have the car 6 weeks, getting 8.9 - 10.1 mpg. Drove city and highway, 185 miles w 20 gallons, a few times. Spoke to dealer, they don't want to do a consumption test till 7500 miles. They also told me that if nothing on the dashboard is lighting up as a problem then theres nothing wrong. The dealers in brooklyn NY are horrible. I'm a very calm driver, use the heat normally and most of the time travel alone. I know MPG estimates are a bit off but not 60%. Does anyone have any info ?
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Re: extremely bad mpg [Azudi] by justaveragejoe
Feb 18, 2009 (1:42 pm)
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Replying to: Azudi (Feb 18, 2009 12:28 pm)

Seems really low. You can try to perform the idle learn routine. You might have a very tight motor and it needs to break in a bit, but 7500 seems like a long time to be living with 10 mpg. City driving in Brooklyn is different that city driving........well just about anywhere else.
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Re: extremely bad mpg [Azudi] by kipk
Feb 19, 2009 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: Azudi (Feb 18, 2009 12:28 pm)

What were you driving before the Pilot? What MPG did it achieve under the same driving conditions?
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Re: extremely bad mpg [kipk] by Azudi
Feb 19, 2009 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: kipk (Feb 19, 2009 4:31 am)

Still have a 96 Dodge Grand caravan, bigger vehicle, 135,000k. its been thru the mill and back, transmission issues, radiater problems.... It gets 17-19 city. It bothers me that the pilot is getting the same mpg as a cadillac escalade when the sticker boasts 17 city , 23 highway and I'm getting less than half.
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Re: extremely bad mpg [Azudi] by bigdadi118
Feb 19, 2009 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: Azudi (Feb 19, 2009 5:54 am)

Would it be possible your gas was stolen? Write the gas gauge - level each time.
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by Azudi
Feb 19, 2009 (10:35 am)
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not possible, in private driveway and no sign of that whatsoever. i do record the usage everytime i fill up

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