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Re: [hondapilot08] by bigdadi118
Jun 29, 2008 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: hondapilot08 (Jun 28, 2008 4:00 am)

On 08 VP 4x4 - Just finished first 2,000 miles, getting 14 - 15 mpg in city driving.
 
Will report back after I had upcoming trip re highway mpg.
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Re: '06 EX 4WD you must be kidding!!!!!!! [russg1] by mer66
Jul 05, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: russg1 (Jun 20, 2008 11:41 am)

Russ, the MPG you are getting is indeed just about exactly what these trucks can do, mine does almost the same (19-20 hwy, 15-17 average). The claims of 27-28 with these large trucks are highly questionable. It is a nice dream, but not realistic. I have never heard of any car with an EPA hwy estimate of 20 getting 28, never.
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Re: '06 EX 4WD you must be kidding!!!!!!! [mer66] by nlv1
Jul 05, 2008 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: mer66 (Jul 05, 2008 9:00 am)

Well, in my case, the VP 2WD is rated 22 mpg hwy, so getting 26 or 27 mpg is not out of the question in certain conditions. You seem to be forgetting that most have reported these types of mileages in some stretches of a long trip, and they are not the average for the whole trip. We got these readings in uphill/downhill areas of I-81 in VA and TN and not in flat terrain. All we did was note the odometer reading during a fill-up or set the trip meter to 0, then divide the miles travelled by the total gallons pumped in the next fill-up. I hope that was the right way
 
Let us know what mileage you get when you've driven that part of the interstate (or any similar hwy). You did not even say what type of roads you got your mileage. And in case you've driven I-81 (or similar hwy) w/ your Pilot and got a much lower mpg, then I'm sorry you just have to dream on, kid.
 
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Re: '06 EX 4WD you must be kidding!!!!!!! [mer66] by kipk
Jul 06, 2008 (12:41 am)
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Replying to: mer66 (Jul 05, 2008 9:00 am)

>"The claims of 27-28 with these large trucks are highly questionable. It is a nice dream, but not realistic. I have never heard of any car with an EPA hwy estimate of 20 getting 28, never"
 
Some vehicles simply will not do that, and some drivers simply can not do that.
Others can and do.
 
When I choose to drive our Pilot at 75+ with the AC Compressor and cruise running continuously, we will average somewhere in the 19-21 MPG range. Which is how the EPA is testing them now.
 
At 65 with AC and cruise running continuously we can expect more in the 22-23 MPG range.
 
Under ideal conditions, during mild weather when the "AC" compressor can be off most of the time, expect another + 1-2 mpg.
 
Now here is the "kicker" that most drivers simply are not capable of doing.
 
Keep in mind that traffic conditions must always be considered.
Keep in mind that traffic conditions must always be considered.
Keep in mind that traffic conditions must always be considered.
 
I've done this and it works. Drive at 60 mph. On hilly roads turn off the cruise. Accelerate slightly toward the bottom of downhill grades to say 65 mph and hold a steady foot. (Gravity is helping) The car will go farther up the next hill before downshifting. It will most likely be slowing down. That's OK! It will build speed again after it tops the hill. Never try to gain speed while going up hill, you are fighting gravity and wasting a lot of fuel.
This will earn another 1-3 MPG, depending on driver skills, road conditions, wind, and traffic. Do the math and you will come up with 26-28 mpg possible.
 
On flat roads, set the cruise at 60 and let it do it's thing. Something else to keep in mind is the effect of head winds. Driving at a given speed against a 10 mph head wind will burn "Nearly" as much fuel as driving 10 mph faster on a calm day. Of course rolling resistance of the tires, engine rpm and so forth will figure in. Not much we can do about the weather!
 
My point is this! The Pilot, like any SUV, has a lot of frontal area. That adds up to a lot of wind resistance. Wind resistance formula is Frontal Area (FA) times the Speed squared .
 
Example: at 75 the wind resistance would be FA (X) (75X75). = FA X 5625.
Example: at 60 the wind resistance would be FA (X) (60X60). = FA X 3600.
 
These examples show the wind resistance at 75 mph to be 56% higher than at 60 mph. Add in the FA of the Pilot and the mileage is greatly affected by speed. These figures don't mean you will burn 56% more fuel at 75 vs 60, but it will have a lot of influence.
 
Hope that helps to answer the "Questionable" part for ya.
 
Your Pilot may or may not be capable, and the driver may or may not be capable.
 
However "REAL World" for most drivers is to drive 5-10 over the posted limits, with cruise and AC on. They can expect the EPA ratings.
 
Kip
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TERRIBLE GAS MILEAGE!!!!! HELP!!!!! by tombrady1
Jul 08, 2008 (8:11 am)
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I have a 2008 Honda Pilot EX-L 2WD, I've had it for about 2-3 months and I am currently getting ONLY 11 MPG!!!!!!!!!! I am so frustrated! I paid an arm and a leg to buy this BRAND NEW!! Has anyone had this problem? What do I do?!
 
FYI: It has dealer installed 20inch rims with Nitto Tires (NT420S, 255/45R20 - Which are A rated - THE BEST)
 
HELP!!
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Re: '06 EX 4WD you must be kidding!!!!!!! [kipk] by tidester HOST
Jul 08, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: kipk (Jul 06, 2008 12:41 am)

These figures don't mean you will burn 56% more fuel at 75 vs 60, but it will have a lot of influence.
 
That's a good point! Other forms of friction losses (internal friction, improperly inflated tires and so forth) do not mysteriously disappear when you speed up from 60 to 75 mph.
 
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Re: TERRIBLE GAS MILEAGE!!!!! HELP!!!!! [tombrady1] by poodog13
Jul 08, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: tombrady1 (Jul 08, 2008 8:11 am)

What method are you using to calculate the MPG? Is the overall wheel circumference (rim plus tire) larger than the standard overall circumferance? My guess is no otherwise you'd rub when turning, but if so then your true mileage may be understated by the % difference in total circumferance, thus understating your MPG.
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3100 mile trip by 8sparkplugs
Jul 08, 2008 (3:24 pm)
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We have a 2007 2wd Pilot EX-L. We just returned from a trip that started in Victoria,TX traveled up through Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, Illinios, Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, and back to Texas. We drove around 75 mph with the a/c on the entire trip. Total trip was 3098 miles and used 135.9 gallons of gas. Average was 22.8 mpg. This was with two people, our dog and plenty of luggage and an ice chest. Total weight around 700 pounds. This was mostly highway, but did include some city driving. We did have one tank that was just over 25 mpg.
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Re: should I ask the dealer to check my 07 EX 4WD [stxyz] by vsvasu
Jul 08, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: stxyz (Jun 17, 2008 3:36 am)

It takes few thousand miles to break-in , i got best mileger for my 07 EX 2WD at 9100 miles.
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Re: should I ask the dealer to check my 07 EX 4WD [stxyz] by vsvasu
Jul 08, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: stxyz (Jun 17, 2008 3:36 am)

It takes few thousand miles to break-in , i got best mileger for my 07 EX 2WD at 9100 miles on high-way i am getting 25.3 mpg

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