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Re: Pilot AWD [justaveragejoe] re tach>4300rpm [jimmmmmy] by justaveragejoe
Aug 08, 2007 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: jimmmmmy (Aug 08, 2007 12:41 pm)

Jimmmmmy,
 
At 4300 rpm, a control module directs the VTEC system to switch intake valve operation to the high-speed mode. An electric spool valve opens to route pressurized oil to small pistons within the intake-valve rocker arms. These pistons then slide to lock the three rocker arms together. As a result, both intake valves follow a central high-lift, longer-duration cam lobe. The extra lift and longer duration provide the added air and FUEL the engine needs to produce high peak horsepower and a broader torque band.
 
In other words, it is when the Pilot starts to go "BRAAAAAAT" and I start to say "WOWEEEEEEEE".
 
I really try to drive both ends of the spectrum but have a difficult time keeping my RPMs under 2500 even when I try hard. I think it is the tendency of the vehicle.
 
Joe
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Re: Pilot AWD [justaveragejoe] re tach>4300rpm [jimmmmmy] [justaveragejoe] by kipk
Aug 09, 2007 (1:40 am)
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Replying to: justaveragejoe (Aug 08, 2007 2:40 pm)

"I really try to drive both ends of the spectrum but have a difficult time keeping my RPMs under 2500 even when I try hard. I think it is the tendency of the vehicle."
 
 
Joe,
 
Your explanation of the HONDA VTEC operation is better than I have seen elsewhere.
 
I'm still trying to understand the advantage of overhead cams if rockers are used, other than the VTEC and similar devices used by other mfg. Which are fairly new on the scene. Originally the OHC purpose was to provide an "INLINE" operation to the valves from the cam and eliminate the rockers and long push rods from changing direction and so forth.
 
Is there a URL with Pictures and such illustrating the Honda operation?
 
I can usually understand pictures and slow moving animations!
 
Thanks,
Kip
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2007 2WD EXL by dampmp
Aug 09, 2007 (5:18 pm)
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Okay, passed the 1,000 mark and have filled up twice since last posting. I have a bit of a heavy foot on highway driving.
 
Sunday fill: 22.823 mpg, Around 180 highway miles, mostly flats and AC, probably 65mph avg. on highways.
 
Today's fill (not even half tank, but cheapest gas in a while)so filled up:
19.866 mpg, 120 highway miles, AC, 70+ MPH avg. on highways.
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from Jimmmmmy MILEAGE LOG for 2007 - 2WD by jimmmmmy
Aug 10, 2007 (6:33 am)
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I will continue to post my MPG records for my new 2WD PILOT. My first record (Summer 2007) is at the top of this post and the latest record will be on the bottom of this post.
     
- 22 MPG, 90% highway 65 mph and moderate rolling terrain, fully loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, MI, WI, MN
     
- 17.6 MPG, 100% city, 0-50 mph, flat terrain, half loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, MN
     
- 18.5 MPG, 100% highway 80 mph, moderate terrain, fully loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, MN, IA
     
- 20.5 MPG, 100% highway, 85 mph, flat terrain, fully loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, NE
     
 
- 20.6 MPG, 90% flat highway 80 MPH then 10 % slowly up 2000' in elevation, fully loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, CO
   
- 22.2 MPG, 90% flat highway 70 MPH and 10 % slowly down 2000' in elevation, fully loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, CO
   
- 21.4 MPG, 100% flat highway 84 MPH, fully loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, CO, NE
   
- 21.0 MPG, 100% highway medium terrain 82 MPH, fully loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, NE, IA
   
- 22.2 MPG, 100 % highway medium terrain 78 MPH, fully loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, IA, MN
  
- 19.7 MPG, 100 % city driving with a LIGHT-LIGHT foot, half loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, MN
 
- 16.8 MPG, 100% city driving, 0-50 mph, flat terrain and more stop and go, half loaded, 100% AC, dry conditions, MN
   
I'll keep you posted. Jimmmmmy August 10, 2007
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My car loves gas by rich1945
Aug 10, 2007 (4:42 pm)
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Brought the car in for road test they fill up tank drive it then refill it sucks they got 15 mpg i get 13 but someone told me to look into a cold air filter ( have no idea what it is ) to increase horsepower and gas mileage any ideas about it
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20 mpg for 07 AWD EX-L by zeg
Aug 12, 2007 (12:46 pm)
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07 AWD EX-L, 20 for the mileage 75-80% HYW (65-70 mph) for the the first 1000 miles, AC on all the time. Not bad in my opinion.
 
I had some individual experience with my traded 03 Camary SE (V4), 20 for the first 2 years, 18k (75% city, even that is quite low)! Eventually reach 25+ when I started long commute for a year, finally reaching close to 30 by the time I traded around 50K miles
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Re: Pilot AWD [justaveragejoe] re tach>4300rpm [jimmmmmy] [justaveragejoe] [kipk] by justaveragejoe
Aug 12, 2007 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: kipk (Aug 09, 2007 1:40 am)

You are correct that the push-rods are eliminated in an OHC engine but the rockers still have to open the valves. I found these links which hopefully will be enlightening for everyone with a VTEC Pilot.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcT_ZyY3F0k&mode=related&search=
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q24D0xv49d4&watch_response
 
Joe
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Re: Pilot AWD [hos] by justaveragejoe
Aug 12, 2007 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: hos (Aug 02, 2007 4:21 pm)

The dealer should not dismiss your poor gas mileage. If they do not at least check the fuel-trim, exhaust gas analysis, and all of the related components, then find a dealer that will.
 
There are many components that provide information to the computer. If a few of them get close to being out of specification then the computer will not be providing the optimum air/fuel mixture. Since this engine is a ULEV, it is very sensitive to the readings and may over compensate for what it senses as a excessive emission.
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Re: My car loves gas [rich1945] by joesacramento
Aug 12, 2007 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: rich1945 (Aug 10, 2007 4:42 pm)

What year and model is your Pilot? How many miles it?
#632 of 981
Re: Pilot AWD [justaveragejoe] re tach>4300rpm [jimmmmmy] [justaveragejoe] [kipk] [justaveragejoe] by kipk
Aug 13, 2007 (2:17 am)
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Replying to: justaveragejoe (Aug 12, 2007 1:27 pm)

Joe,
 
Thanks!
 
Are there 2 cams in each head? One for intake and one for exhaust.?
 
Kip

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