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Honda Pilot, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#1078 of 1186 Re: instant mpg [kipk]
May 02, 2010 (2:42 pm)
Thanks Kip for providing a great information on the honda engine oil. I also want to point out about the shell octane..
I have been using shell 87, 89, 91 on my 2006 camry V6.. Same route, used cruise.. mpg came out very similiar using shell 87, 89, 91.. So all shell octane are very good.. I will be using shell 87 on the pilot.
here is the fuelly site to see it.
#1079 of 1186 Re: instant mpg [kingfans1]
May 02, 2010 (7:25 pm)
hi I read some information the engine oil regarding to honda s2000... I think we can follow this on the pilot too.
information from the website.
because the dipstick goes through the cylinder head, oil draining back into the oil pan can wet the dipstick and give deceptive readings. so when checking the engine oil level, make sure you look at both sides of the dipstick, and use the lowest reading.
#1080 of 1186 Re: instant mpg [kingfans1]
May 03, 2010 (1:33 am)
That is a neat web site.
May 03, 2010 (7:26 am)
When 12K or so is reached, and I feel pretty sure the engine is broken in as much as it is going to be, I will start using synthetic oil.
I always consider synthetic oil, until I see the price at the parts store. What change interval are you planning on using with synthetic? It will be interesting to see if MPG is affected.
#1082 of 1186 Re: Synthetic Oil [justaveragejoe]
May 04, 2010 (5:31 am)
My real purpose of the synthetic is to reduce wear on the engine internal parts.
Better mileage would also be a good thing, IF it should happen.
My understanding is that synthetic is slicker, than "Dino" oil and produces less sludge and carbon that can stick to internal parts. Many moons ago I raced 2 stroke motorcycles in cross country enduros, A friend that raced motorcycles was experimenting with a synthetic before most of us had heard about it. Seems it was called "Ameroil" or something like that.
He heated a piece of 1/4 inch steal with a torch until it was really hot. Then put a couple drops of Dino and a couple of drops of synthetic oil on the hot metal. The synthetic vanished, but the dino left a very small but visible ash.
I was impressed by his demonstration but still not convinced that oil from plants could lubricate as well as oil from petroleum. I didn't like the idea of an engine seizing up in the middle of nowhere, so I stuck with dino and just removed built up carbon from the top of the piston as I had always done, at the end of each season.
When my family came along, I stopped racing and lost touch with my racing friends.
Then around 2003 I purchased my first lawn mower with overhead valves and an oil pump. The guy at the store told me I would get a longer life from the engine if I would change to synthetic when I got about 15 hours on the engine. He said to not do it any earlier than that, because the synthetic is super slick and the engine would never "Wear In" properly and would always "use" oil. He also said that synthetic would stick to parts better, lubricate better, and flow better with a cold engine.
My Generac Generator owners manual said to use synthetic oil after the break in period. Ridgeline owners manual said synthetic is Okay as long as it meets specifications. So I'm going to put it in the Ridgeline at 12K or so.
I will probably change it according to the Maintenance Monitor because my understanding is that synthetic doesn't build acid like dino does. Right now the RL is at 3400+ miles and the MM says I still have 60% oil life left . So my type of driving would likely go to 7K+ before the MM gets too excited. Because I have been changing it every 6 months which is around 3K miles, I will likely be changing it only half as much using the MM and synthetic oil.
In my case the cost per year for oil would likely be a wash as I will be changing oil only half as often, but it cost nearly twice as much. Will save a little bit on only buying one filter yearly.
And yes, it would seem that a slicker oil would allow the engine parts to move more freely and possibly reflect that in better mileage.
One last thing. I have always thought that Gas is Gas. But when I switched from our local "Flash Foods" and "QT" brands to Shell 87 octane, I saw an increase of 8%-12% across the board with the Pilot. Shell is usually $.05- $.10 per gallon more costly. That equates to 2%-4% more per gallon to get 8%-!2% better mileage. It may also contain better engine cleaners, I won't even pretend to understand how the Shell gets better mileage, but it sure does in both our vehicles. And that is a good thing !
#1083 of 1186 Re: Honda Pilot 0 to 60 [kipk]
May 04, 2010 (7:11 pm)
after reading a few articles, I found out o to 60... they even have test sheets in pdf format..
09 honda pilot 4wd. 1/4 mile. 16.1 86 mph , o to 60 7.7 seconds
10 acura mdx. 1/4 mile. 15.1 93 mph. 0 to 60 6.6 seconds..
I don't know what articles you have been read, getting 8.6 to 9.1... wow. honda pilot is as good as mdx... I also think Ridgeline 1/4 mile will be very similar to pilot..
#1084 of 1186 Re: Synthetic Oil [justaveragejoe]
May 31, 2010 (4:54 pm)
hi my 2010 pilot is about to service for the first oil changed.. I am thinking about using 5w20 castrol gtx. I am not going for synthetic..
I know most honda dealer use honda oil ( mobil 1 )..
I really like castrol brand.. I used it in my camry.
so I like to know what u guys using on their honda.. and tell how they perform.
#1085 of 1186 Mileage Update
Jul 11, 2010 (2:00 pm)
Okay, I know I haven't been around for awhile, but I'll post my mileage update. The vehicle for this is "The Beast" my 2006 Honda Pilot EX (with added off-road suspension and Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor 235/75 R16's)
My current mileage on the odometer is reading just shy of 57k and this is a combination of both highway, city and off-road driving (and when I say off-road I mean fire trails, driving through streams, 3 wheel angled turns, mud, sand and rocks, etc etc etc.) I have kept a small notebook listing every fill-up and my mileage. The lowest I have ever had during a one tank trip was 11.5 (lots of off-roading and idling) and the highest I've had on one tank is 27.4 (all highway with big rig traffic). On average I'm getting 20.3 MPG. Would I like better mileage? Sure I would. Am I happy with what I'm getting now? Yeah, considering what I put "The Beast" through.
I'm lookinging forward to a nice drive from Hershey, PA out to Chicago, IL and back coming up at the end of Sept. which will be mostly 90% highway driving.
That is all for now.
#1086 of 1186 Florida Vacation
Aug 23, 2010 (7:05 pm)
We have taken three trips from Missouri to Florida in our 07 AWD Pilot. The first two trips were an average of 22.0 then 21.0. This year we ran the same route as before with 2300 miles and an average of 21.3. Pretty consistent. We usually drive 3-5 over the limit and had two adults and 2 kids with on board.
#1087 of 1186 Re: Florida Vacation [tld]
Aug 24, 2010 (6:44 pm)
that is pretty good for a 2007. do you use cruise control?
my 2010 pilot ex-l 4wd average 20.2. my best was 21.3. I always warm up my car in winter time, and drive in snow. I am happy with mpg on the pilot.