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Honda Pilot, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#1068 of 1186 Re: 2010 mpg [thomasr1950]
Apr 28, 2010 (4:22 am)
>"I just returned from a trip in my 2010Pilot 2wd. I got less than 22mpg on the interstate with cruise set at 755mph. ..... Is this what others are getting? Seems low to me."
Seems about right to me, or maybe a bit high for 75 mph. A Pilot pushes a lot of air. Air resistance is a formula: Frontal area of the vehicle times the speed squared. At 65 mph the formula would look like Ax(65x65). Or Ax4225. At 75 mph the formula would be Ax5625. So at 75 the wind resistance alone is 33% higher than at 65. Other factors such as tire resistance, efficiency of the engine at different rpm, load,etc. would also figure in.
Drop your top speed to 70 and you might see an increase of 1-2 mpg.
Over a period of 7 years of recording every drop of gas, Our '03 Pilot would consistantly return freeway mileage of 18-19 mpg at 80 mph and 26-28 mpg at 60 mph. Your 2010 may or may not reflect the same mileage or mileage differences.
On the freeway, our '09 Ridgeline with 3100 miles on the clock is now getting 24+ mpg at 60 mph. At 70 mpg the mileage drops to 21 mpg. It may drop into the teens at 75 mph.
Plain and simple: Speed kills mileage.
Read your window sticker and you will find that the estimated MPG for your Pilot is something like 17-23 in big black letters. Now read the small print beside the large numbers and you will see how much they expect it could vary. Variance will be caused by speed, driving conditions, weather and so forth.
A 500 mile trip at a constant 75 MPH will take 6.7 hours. At 65 mph it will take 7.7 hours. If mileage at 65 was 2-3 mpg better than at 75, the savings would be 2-3 gallons of fuel. That is $5-$8 more or less fuel and an hour more or less time on the road. Priorities depend on needs and wants.
#1069 of 1186 Re: 2010 mpg [thomasr1950]
Apr 28, 2010 (5:42 am)
With highway EPA mileage listed lower than that, you should be pleased. At 75 MPH, my girlfriend's 185 horsepower Santa Fe gets only 23-24 or so.
#1070 of 1186 Re: 2010 mpg [thegraduate]
Apr 28, 2010 (6:26 pm)
Thanks for the replies. I'm used to driving a Accord V-6 getting 28mpg, so with a Pilot i'll have to get used to the reduced fuel mileage & slow down. It does ride better than the Accord, plus more room.
#1071 of 1186 Re: 2010 mpg [thomasr1950]
Apr 29, 2010 (5:37 am)
Yep. You're paying for that upright stance and extra 1,000 lbs of weight over a V6 Accord via fuel mileage. Nice vehicle though!
#1072 of 1186 Re: instant mpg [thomasr1950]
Apr 29, 2010 (5:48 am)
I don't know about the Pilot, but the Ridgeline, when the dash display is in "Average Mileage" mode there is a bar at the bottom of the display moving left to right and back and forth as the instant MPG varies.
#1073 of 1186 Re: instant mpg [kipk]
Apr 30, 2010 (4:52 pm)
how do you properly check engine oil on 2009 honda pilot and ridgeline??
#1074 of 1186 Re: instant mpg [kingfans1]
May 01, 2010 (4:09 am)
The dip stick is an orange handle (loop) on the front of the engine (toward front grill).
After the car has been sitting on level ground with the engine "OFF" for a few minutes or longer, pull the dipstick out and wipe clean it with a clean cloth or paper towel.
Note: if you use a paper towel, be sure no pieces of the towel stick to the dip stick.
Re-insert the dip stick completely, then remove it again. Near the bottom there is a "Grid" . The grid has an upper and a lower "Mark". The oil should be on the grid between the 2 marks. If it is toward the bottom of the grid I would add a bit of Honda Approved oil, a little at a time until the upper mark is reached. Don't go over the upper mark . Sometimes "clean oil can be hard to see on the stick but if you rotate it while holding it horizontal you can usually see the oil mark on the back of the stick.
#1075 of 1186 Re: instant mpg [kipk]
May 01, 2010 (3:44 pm)
ok. I don't know if I am checking the engine oil in Honda Correct Way.. My engine oil show just about the 2nd low marks. Should I be worry about it? If you have low engine oil, do the computer show????
#1076 of 1186 5,000 mile service
May 01, 2010 (3:58 pm)
hi kip, I bought my 2010 honda pilot in November 2009. The car is only about 6500 miles...
I received a letter from Honda, 5,000 mile service is due, service recommended.. The car is not even 1 year old yet, and 6500 miles..
Do I follow the letter or MM ???
#1077 of 1186 Re: instant mpg [kingfans1]
May 02, 2010 (3:36 am)
The car is should be sitting on a reasonably flat surface. If not, the dipstick may give a false reading as the slanted engine will move the oil toward or away from the dip stick.
When a car is running, there is oil circulating throughout the engine.
After the engine is turned off, it takes a few minutes for the oil to drain back into the crank case (oil pan).
The dip stick has a sealing gasket built into the very top ,just under the handle.
This gasket makes the stick a bit harder to push the last bit into the engine, but it should be done.
So if the car is sitting flat, oil has had a few minutes to drain back into the crank case, and the stick is being fully seated when checking; you will get an accurate reading.
If the oil level is showing real close to the bottom line on the "grid", but still within the grid, you should be OK. If it is below the bottom line on the grid, the car needs oil to be added or changed.
Personally, if the oil level is more than half way down the grid I will add enough oil to bring the level back to the top, if I'm not planning to change the oil any time soon. I'm not sure if the distance between the bottom and top lines of the grid represent a quart, a half quart or what amount. If half way down I would add 1/4 quart of oil, give that a chance to settle into the oil pan and re-check the level.
If that brought the level up pretty close to the top line I would stop. If not, add some more.
If unsure what oil to use, get a quart of "Honda" oil from the dealer. You can be pretty sure that "Honda" BRAND IS WHAT CAME IN THE ENGINE FROM THE FACTORY.
There are all kinds of opinions as to when the oil should be changed.
Many say the cars computer keeps track of the type of driving that is being done and the "Maintenance Minder" will let us know when the oil needs changing. Others believe the oil builds acid over a period of time and should be changed at least every 6 months just to get rid of the acid ladened oil. Even though the driven mileage and "maintenance minder" (MM) don't indicate it.
I personally change the oil every 5K miles or every 6 months, whichever comes first. Sometimes the oil may have only 3K or so at the 6 month mark But it still gets changed. I also use car brand oil filters. Example: in my Honda I use Honda Brand filters, In the Toyota I use Toyota brand filters. In the Chevy I use Delco (GM BRAND) filters. There may be other filters just as good for a dollar less. But when I use the "manufactures brand" filters I feel relatively sure it is doing the job it is supposed to do.
FWIW: I got the Ridgeline the first of November 2009. (6 months) It now has 3000+ miles on it. I will be changing the oil in the next week or so. even though the MM says I still have 60%. Left. I will use "HONDA" brand oil and filter from the dealer, because the engine is still breaking in. Same thing the next couple of times. When 12K or so is reached, and I feel pretty sure the engine is broken in as much as it is going to be, I will start using synthetic oil.
I may be wasting money, but peace of mind is worth something. $25 worth of oil and filter seems pretty cheap compared to the cost of a new engine.
If I were driving 12K+ a year, I would likely use the MM after the first change. But as I only drive 6K+ per year, I will stick to every 6 months.
Different strokes for different folks!