- #1852 of 2058
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Re: I believe [targettuning]
by ruking1
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Oct 28, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Oct 28, 2008 4:42 am)
I guess you were jealous before.... and now you know how!!! So you can eat crow and apologize.... or do you need an (apologetic) scan gauge for that too?
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- #1853 of 2058
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Re: I believe [targettuning]
by cjhepburn
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Oct 28, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Oct 28, 2008 4:42 am)
I am on the fence as to getting a scanguage. If it were $99, I would arleady have one. Does a scanguage do anything for your driving style that you don't intuitively know already?
I've proven to my car that it can do 40MPG. I know I could limit the speed to 60-65 and accelerate even slower but I don't need scanguage to show me that. Maybe real time data just drives that point home.
If I can get it up to 44 MPG without having Prius drivers flip me off as they pass using scanguage then the return on investment is about 27500 miles $2.549Gallon. Is it worth it?
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- #1854 of 2058
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Re: I believe [cjhepburn]
by ruking1
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Oct 28, 2008 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: cjhepburn (Oct 28, 2008 9:43 am)
Winks aside, some of what you might know intuitively MAY be incorrect: or even if you know it, you may NOT be applying what you know correctly. The other is that different (gasser) cars might have different characteristics and a scan gauge can make it easier to know and apply the differences. So in effect the scan gauge is a real time, almost like a bio feedback device.
So for example, if I were to try some to all hypermileage techniques ( trying to consistently get past 42 mpg) on the Civic gasser (and past 62 mpg on a VW Jetta TDI) it will make the game easier with a scan gauge.
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- #1855 of 2058
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Re: I believe [ruking1]
by cjhepburn
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Oct 28, 2008 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 28, 2008 10:16 am)
Do you have an example of what may be a misconception of attaining higher fuel economy? Drive slower, accelerate slower, anticipate distant slowdowns and stops, and (although I don' t do this) draft the truck in front of you are a few of things that are intuitive to me.
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- #1856 of 2058
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Re: I believe [cjhepburn]
by ruking1
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Oct 28, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: cjhepburn (Oct 28, 2008 11:16 am)
Here are some questions, no particular order that a scan gauge can answer REAL TIME. What do you do when the automatic gear keeps upshifting/downshifting? What is the rpm when max torque comes on. What are the ideal rpms and torque for best fuel mileage? Is it the same or different for automatic/manual? What is the best load to drive at? Do you accelerate slowly or briskly for the best mpg? What is the best way to climb a long grade? Does your vehicle have little or no fuel draw on a long downgrade? The observable product or goal for example would be mpg.
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- #1857 of 2058
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Re: I believe [targettuning]
by kipk
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Oct 29, 2008 (3:13 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Oct 28, 2008 4:42 am)
Good Post!
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- #1858 of 2058
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06 Civic and ScanGuage
by targettuning
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Oct 29, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Since this tool (ScanGuage) is my new toy and since it monitors all engine and probably automatic transmission management computers as well it has quite a few read-outs and parameters that I probably won't investigate e.g. whether the car is operating in "open or closed" loop and intake temperature but will probably concentrate on fuel economy and related readings e.g. fuel to empty, distance to empty, average fuel economy etc. Yeah, I know this type of information is available as standard equipment on various vehicles but not Honda. Yes, one can speculate on fuel economy and even drag out the calculator and figure out the average for the tank (within reason unless math isn't your strong point) but this piece of equipment can inform you instantly and constantly allowing you to make small changes (if you wish) in real time and see real time increases or decreases in fuel economy. Plus for me it makes me conscious of my driving techniques at all times not just at fill up time when economy seems to be too low but wait!!! Oh, yeah now I remember "flooring it" or running it up to 100 mph in a fit of road rage. It sure is useful for us....
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- #1859 of 2058
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Re: 06 Civic and ScanGuage [targettuning]
by thegraduate
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Oct 29, 2008 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Oct 29, 2008 8:03 am)
Yeah, I know this type of information is available as standard equipment on various vehicles but not Honda
Out of curiousity, are there low-end compacts out there that offer this as standard? If there are I really don't know about 'em, but would like to. I know the CR-V has this, as well as the new Accord, I just didn't know the $15k-$20k compact/subcompact market had this feature "standardized" yet.
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- #1860 of 2058
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Re: 06 Civic and ScanGuage [thegraduate]
by ruking1
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Oct 29, 2008 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 29, 2008 8:19 am)
It is almost sad (but funny to say this) but for want of a less than 20 dollar computer option (cost to the oem) people do not get the kind of mileage a particular vehicle is capable, given one's desire. Of course it is available on higher end cars, sans two things 1 higher end car buyers are really not as fuel conscious 2. the ones that do have them are usually higher performance cars.
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- #1861 of 2058
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Re: 06 Civic and ScanGuage [thegraduate]
by sebring95
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Oct 29, 2008 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 29, 2008 8:19 am)
I've had two econo-box rentals in the last few months... a Chevy Cobalt and a Corolla. Both had pretty decent trip computers with mpg, avg. speed, etc. Honda is always a little stingy on features. I didn't even get a trip computer in my $30,000+ Odyssey...you had to go to the top-end model to get that, along with auto headlamps and auto doorlocks Hey, my '07 Civic had auto door locks at half the price.....
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