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What is this discussion about? Honda Civic, Fuel Efficiency (MPG)


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Re: [cjhepburn] by kipk
Oct 28, 2008 (3:18 am)
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Replying to: cjhepburn (Oct 27, 2008 4:32 am)

>"I just finished my relaxed and more efficient driving style test"
 
Good job !
 
That over 10% increase in mileage probably won't make a difference in whether or not you eat, but it can bring along a great sense of satisfaction. You also kicked the crap out of the EPA estimates as well as what the "Average" driver gets!
You are above and better than average.
 
Also contrary to belief of many people on these forums, you didn't get rear ended by a school bus.
 
Interesting to see folks speak of how they achieved really excellent mileage and many keep logs of every drop of gas and how it was used. I do that.
 
I don't recall anyone ever asking me, "How many cars did you pass last week" or "How may times did you red line the engine", or "How close can you tail gate", or "How do you stay alive driving the posted speed limits" ?
 
They do ask, what kind of mileage I get. I tell them the average mileage for local driving and the mileage for road trips. Not unusual to hear, "I don't believe that" or
"But I thought they got a lot less than that"!
 
Then it is time to show them the "Book" .
 
Kip
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I believe by targettuning
Oct 28, 2008 (4:42 am)
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I have always "bashed" those who posted 40 mpg and above fuel economy numbers for the 2006-07-08 Civic. We own an 06 EX sedan automatic. Well, I recently purchased a Scan Gauge and have seen averages well over 40 mpg for individual highway trips. My wife reported 44.1 for one leg of a 130 mile round trip to Harrisburg Pa via I-81 65 mph. The return trip yielded just over 40. So I guess I am a convert. The ScanGuage is a wonderful "tool" to help maximize fuel economy.
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Re: I believe [targettuning] by ruking1
Oct 28, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Oct 28, 2008 4:42 am)

I guess you were jealous before.... and now you know how!!! So you can eat crow and apologize.... or do you need an (apologetic) scan gauge for that too?
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Re: I believe [targettuning] by cjhepburn
Oct 28, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Oct 28, 2008 4:42 am)

I am on the fence as to getting a scanguage. If it were $99, I would arleady have one. Does a scanguage do anything for your driving style that you don't intuitively know already?
I've proven to my car that it can do 40MPG. I know I could limit the speed to 60-65 and accelerate even slower but I don't need scanguage to show me that. Maybe real time data just drives that point home.
If I can get it up to 44 MPG without having Prius drivers flip me off as they pass using scanguage then the return on investment is about 27500 miles $2.549Gallon. Is it worth it?
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Re: I believe [cjhepburn] by ruking1
Oct 28, 2008 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: cjhepburn (Oct 28, 2008 9:43 am)

Winks aside, some of what you might know intuitively MAY be incorrect: or even if you know it, you may NOT be applying what you know correctly. The other is that different (gasser) cars might have different characteristics and a scan gauge can make it easier to know and apply the differences. So in effect the scan gauge is a real time, almost like a bio feedback device.
 
So for example, if I were to try some to all hypermileage techniques ( trying to consistently get past 42 mpg) on the Civic gasser (and past 62 mpg on a VW Jetta TDI) it will make the game easier with a scan gauge.
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Re: I believe [ruking1] by cjhepburn
Oct 28, 2008 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 28, 2008 10:16 am)

Do you have an example of what may be a misconception of attaining higher fuel economy? Drive slower, accelerate slower, anticipate distant slowdowns and stops, and (although I don' t do this) draft the truck in front of you are a few of things that are intuitive to me.
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Re: I believe [cjhepburn] by ruking1
Oct 28, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: cjhepburn (Oct 28, 2008 11:16 am)

Here are some questions, no particular order that a scan gauge can answer REAL TIME. What do you do when the automatic gear keeps upshifting/downshifting? What is the rpm when max torque comes on. What are the ideal rpms and torque for best fuel mileage? Is it the same or different for automatic/manual? What is the best load to drive at? Do you accelerate slowly or briskly for the best mpg? What is the best way to climb a long grade? Does your vehicle have little or no fuel draw on a long downgrade? The observable product or goal for example would be mpg.
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Re: I believe [targettuning] by kipk
Oct 29, 2008 (3:13 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Oct 28, 2008 4:42 am)

Good Post!
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06 Civic and ScanGuage by targettuning
Oct 29, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Since this tool (ScanGuage) is my new toy and since it monitors all engine and probably automatic transmission management computers as well it has quite a few read-outs and parameters that I probably won't investigate e.g. whether the car is operating in "open or closed" loop and intake temperature but will probably concentrate on fuel economy and related readings e.g. fuel to empty, distance to empty, average fuel economy etc. Yeah, I know this type of information is available as standard equipment on various vehicles but not Honda. Yes, one can speculate on fuel economy and even drag out the calculator and figure out the average for the tank (within reason unless math isn't your strong point) but this piece of equipment can inform you instantly and constantly allowing you to make small changes (if you wish) in real time and see real time increases or decreases in fuel economy. Plus for me it makes me conscious of my driving techniques at all times not just at fill up time when economy seems to be too low but wait!!! Oh, yeah now I remember "flooring it" or running it up to 100 mph in a fit of road rage. It sure is useful for us....
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Re: 06 Civic and ScanGuage [targettuning] by thegraduate
Oct 29, 2008 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Oct 29, 2008 8:03 am)

Yeah, I know this type of information is available as standard equipment on various vehicles but not Honda
 
Out of curiousity, are there low-end compacts out there that offer this as standard? If there are I really don't know about 'em, but would like to. I know the CR-V has this, as well as the new Accord, I just didn't know the $15k-$20k compact/subcompact market had this feature "standardized" yet.

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