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Replying to: cjhepburn (Oct 19, 2008 4:53 am) For this next tank, I'm driving like a pussy, nice and slow entering highways and keeping the speed under 72, more like 65-70. If this doesn't hit 40MPG nothing will. I wonder what the mileage would be if gas didn't have ethanol mixed in.
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Replying to: cjhepburn (Oct 21, 2008 5:22 pm) |
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| My 1995 Honda Civic EX 1.6L DOHC VTEC Automatic is rated for 29 MPG combined on the old ratings and 26 MPG on the new 2008 ratings. I achieve a 33 MPG on a 90 day average. MPG is tracked on 4 different sites and I would consider myself a conservative hypermiler. Tire pressure is at max sidewell. I typically drive the speed limit which is 65 MPH or sometimes 55-60 depending on traffic. I've hit 40 MPG on 4 occasions and have had several tanks above 35. If you're not getting the MPG on the new 2008 ratings you're doing something wrong. Newer Civics than mine get better gas mileage so you should be beating my MPG. The older civics such as the Civic VX gets 40+ MPG. | |
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i believe the newer civic automatics have a torque converter lockup that eliminates TC slip at steady speeds. This will have a significant impact on highway mileage on an auto. Then, if the gearing is actually taller (i think it is) than the manual, the auto's highway mileage could easily be better. |
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| Commute mpg range has for the life of the car (74,000 miles) been between 38-42 mph. In the same commute and NOW with two people (instead of one) it has settled into 40 mpg. (middle of the range: 38,39,40 41,42.) Researching msg # 1416, current conditions put (1.24,+2.11)=3.35% folks reporting better mpg. I would swag the Civic is doing the job for which it was designed (and our intended use: plain jane commute) pretty well. While we drive (hopefully safely) for the conditions, we do no real fuel hypermileage techniques. (unless you can call poor rush hour traffic a hyper mileage situation) | |
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Replying to: cjhepburn (Oct 19, 2008 4:53 am) 5-Speed Manual Transmission Gear Ratios 1st: 3.143 2nd: 1.870 3rd: 1.235 4th: 0.949 5th: 0.727 Reverse: 3.308 Final Drive: 4.290 Compact 5-Speed Automatic Transmission Gear Ratios 1st: 2.666 2nd: 1.534 3rd: 1.022 4th: 0.721 5th: 0.525 Reverse: 1.957 Final Drive: 4.440
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Replying to: hammer00 (Oct 26, 2008 5:00 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 26, 2008 6:38 am) The 6 speed manual Z06 which has 10% more aggressive gearing (than other 6 speed manual Corvettes) has been estimated and EPA rated)loses app 1-2 mpg. (differences on stated gears are 1st gear 17.9% ,2nd gear 22% ,3 rd gear 21% ,4 th gear 32% ,5th gear 39%, (over other Corvette manual transmission gearing, the stable variable being parasitic drag on 6 speed vs 6 speed is app the same) So for example all my MPG results are with with a 4 speed auto. (5 speed manual was available) This 4 speed automatic has an interesting time deciding what gear it wants to upshift down shift to/ in. I had to overcome this situation by just letting it decide. If you press the accelerator to overcome it, you will lose 1-2 mpg , but I digress. So if you are all not totally glazed over by now: "Transmission 5-Speed Manual Transmission Gear Ratios 1st: 3.462 2nd: 1.870 3rd: 1.241 4th: 0.970 5th: 0.711 Reverse: 3.231 Final Drive: 4.111 4-Speed Automatic Transmission Gear Ratios 1st: 2.722 2nd: 1.516 3rd: 0.975 4th: 0.674 Reverse: 1.955 Final Drive: 4.067 " One can do the math and see it takes almost MASSIVE gearing differences to over come the inherent GREATER parasitic drag of the automatic (not to mention the extra (5th) gear. So while this may or may not matter, acceleration and so called performance might be way more sluggish with the automatic. |
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Replying to: cjhepburn (Oct 21, 2008 5:22 pm)
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Replying to: cjhepburn (Oct 27, 2008 4:32 am) Good job ! That over 10% increase in mileage probably won't make a difference in whether or not you eat, but it can bring along a great sense of satisfaction. You also kicked the crap out of the EPA estimates as well as what the "Average" driver gets! You are above and better than average. Also contrary to belief of many people on these forums, you didn't get rear ended by a school bus. Interesting to see folks speak of how they achieved really excellent mileage and many keep logs of every drop of gas and how it was used. I do that. I don't recall anyone ever asking me, "How many cars did you pass last week" or "How may times did you red line the engine", or "How close can you tail gate", or "How do you stay alive driving the posted speed limits" ? They do ask, what kind of mileage I get. I tell them the average mileage for local driving and the mileage for road trips. Not unusual to hear, "I don't believe that" or "But I thought they got a lot less than that"! Then it is time to show them the "Book" . Kip |
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