- #1093 of 2058
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Re: The old dead horse... [shipo]
by eldaino
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Aug 14, 2007 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Aug 13, 2007 11:49 am)
ah ok. gotcha. I just was just wondering if you knew these existed or not. but its irrelevant anyway!
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- #1094 of 2058
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Re: i don't mean to beat the dead horse [blufz1]
by eldaino
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Aug 14, 2007 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Aug 13, 2007 12:31 pm)
Come on! Be a man! If you really want to ram some air, cut a giant hole in your hood and fit a snorkel type scoop to the K & N
be a man? uh...i wasn't planning on doing this at all...i was just wondering what shipo's stance on what a true full intake system is, i have no plans on doing such a thing...and if i DID, i wouldn't dare what you suggest...i'd end up looking like that kid on the gti commercial when they ask him what his huge hood scoop on his civic does.
'it sucks in air'.
'ya, eet sucks alwight.'
having said that, in the tuner world, putting an 'intake' on your car usually means putting on what i posted (the k&n link) there are some, called cold air intakes that go all the way down to the bumper and replace a whole bunch of stock parts...the one pictured is a short ram and usually has modest gains with regards to torque on the dyno.
granted, no one who really uses them ever did so for fuel economy.
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- #1095 of 2058
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Re: i don't mean to beat the dead horse [eldaino]
by pat HOST
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Aug 15, 2007 (3:44 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Aug 14, 2007 11:54 am)
Enough with this subject in this topic, please.
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- #1096 of 2058
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mpg reports NOT filter debates please
by k5ldb
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Aug 15, 2007 (5:19 am)
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I just brought home my new 07 LX sedan yesterday. It is tango red pearl which I'm told is good for at least one extra mpg due to color superiority. Anyway, I found this forum and dropped back to about message 650 to read all about mileage and found the majority of posts are arguments over filtration. Could we please have some more actual mpg reports? Thanks, and I look forward to posting my own when I've driven enough to make one.
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- #1097 of 2058
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Re: mpg reports NOT filter debates please [k5ldb]
by jefferyg
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Aug 15, 2007 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: k5ldb (Aug 15, 2007 5:19 am)
Congrats on the new Civic. My 07 EX is also tango red pearl, but I don't know that the color is going to get you any extra mpg. Did you get the 5-speed or the automatic? I was surprised that the numbers for each were almost identical - that used to never be the case. I have the auto and so far it's given me a myriad of different mpg readings. Keep us posted.
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- #1098 of 2058
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Re: mpg reports NOT filter debates please [jefferyg]
by k5ldb
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Aug 16, 2007 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: jefferyg (Aug 15, 2007 11:06 am)
I don't really believe the color affects mpg although I guess one could debate if the higher temp underhood from a black car absorbing and white reflecting sun heat is enough to affect mpg. I know you can put your hand on a white car at noon in July and can't touch a black one but don't know if that's enough to affect mpg due to higher intake air temp.
I filled mine yesterday to reset the trip odometer and get a baseline. The dealer reset the trip when they filled it prior to delivery but I don't know just how they filled it. Based on mi/odo it got about 33.2 in mixed use but that was only on 4.5 gallons so not enough to be very accurate.
My usual system is to use the A odo on every fill and the B to accumulate a half dozen or so and then calculate an overall figure. I find that more accurate than the individual calculations.
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- #1099 of 2058
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Re: mpg reports NOT filter debates please [k5ldb]
by ruking1
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Aug 16, 2007 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: k5ldb (Aug 16, 2007 7:52 am)
Well more directly, what really happens is the A/C is (user) set to work and works harder in a darker car than in a lighter car. Whether it converts to hard data or not, it would need a side by side test and then the sample size would probably be too small.
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- #1100 of 2058
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Re: mpg reports NOT filter debates please [k5ldb]
by ras314
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Aug 16, 2007 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: k5ldb (Aug 15, 2007 5:19 am)
Finally have enough miles on my manual 2007 Civic to get a pretty good idea of mileage. Ignoring the first tank from the dealer it has averaged about 43.6 mpg over 1110 miles, 650 hwy at 55 to 65 mph and 460 miles of short (15 mi round trips) mostly at slow speeds but few stop signs. Lowest tank was 42.7, highest 45.9.
I think the 45.9 was a direct result of watching the ScanGauge II. I'm still trying to find the "optimum" hwy speed, so far it looks to be quite low.
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- #1101 of 2058
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Re: mpg reports NOT filter debates please [ras314]
by blufz1
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Aug 16, 2007 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: ras314 (Aug 16, 2007 11:03 am)
Don't need a ScanGauge. The best mileage is obtained in top gear at the slowest speed you can go, 40-45. Don't lug the engine! It's just not safe to go that slow on the highway.
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- #1102 of 2058
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Re: mpg reports NOT filter debates please [blufz1]
by ras314
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Aug 16, 2007 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Aug 16, 2007 12:01 pm)
Agree that 40-45 in 5'th looks best on level road and no head wind, otherwise not enough rpm. This is a surprise to me.
Any idea of the mileage difference between 55, 65 and 75? I'm getting a stupid urge to take a trip somewhere just to find out.
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