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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 08, 2008 3:11 pm) 2008 Toyota RAV4 LTD V6 w/AT - EPA 19/26 - I am getting combined 20 MPG (95% CITY). I know the EPA numbers for the RAV4 are not that much better than the '02 Odyssey's but at least I am able to achieve the EPA numbers with the RAV4. The '02 Odyssey never came close to its EPA numbers no matter what I did. And forget the dealer helping; they just brush it off. 2008 Honda Fit base model w/AT - EPA 27/34 - don't have good stats yet on this one because I just ran the ILP reset and need to accumulate some mileage.
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Replying to: watsac (Aug 09, 2008 3:50 am) The EPA numbers for the RAV4 are actually 3 MPG higher than those in the Odyssey (which has 16/23 when using the new EPA rating system that your RAV is measured with). So, you are getting approx. 3 MPG better with the RAV than you were with the Odyssey. You aren't doing much better compared with the EPA than you were in the Odyssey. For those who didn't know, the EPA rating system was revised for 2008, sending all estimates down by a sometimes-substantial margin. For example, the Odyssey had been rated 18/25, but was revised to 16/23. The RAV4 V6 4WD had been rated 21/28 but was revised down to 19/26. Your new Honda Fit? It was previously rated 31/37 but has been reduced to 27/34 thanks to the new system. So, in reality, it seems to simply be your driving style or commute that is bringing your mileage down. You are getting the same numbers (relatively, approximately 1 MPG below the old EPA estimates for City) or approximately 1 MPG above the new EPA estimates for City) in both of the vehicles. The Odyssey really wasn't any less accurate than your new RAV when compared to the EPA. All that being said, the RAV is a terrific vehicle if you don't need the space efficiency of a minivan. That V6 is a real powerhouse and gets great economy. I just wanted to clarify the EPA ratings issue, and show that Honda really didn't do any worse relative to the EPA ratings than the Toyota.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 09, 2008 7:04 am)
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Replying to: bobber1 (Aug 09, 2008 10:42 am) 
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| We just got back from a 1645 mile trip trhough WV and OH from VA. I wish there was more torque to climb the long I-77 upgrades. We had a heavy load with five people plus luggage (1100 lbs.). I cruised between 65-75 mph. The mileage figured between 23-24 mpg on each tank. I also noticed the drivers seat a little rough on the lower back regardless of the lumbar ajustment. The kids traveled pretty well since they had movies to enjoy. Overall it was a positive experience except for the accident just South of Charleston, WV which added six hours to the trip home. | |
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Replying to: bobber1 (Aug 09, 2008 10:42 am) The Honda weighs just over 2 tons, not "almost 3 tons." ~4,200 lbs doesn't come close to 3 tons, in my mind. The RAV doesn't weigh 1,200 lbs less. The 2002 Odyssey weighs about 4,250 lbs. The 2008 RAV4 weighs about 3,500 lbs.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 09, 2008 10:12 pm)
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Replying to: bobber1 (Aug 10, 2008 6:35 am) Whoa whoa whoa.... the Edmunds weight you are listing is the GVWR - the total weight of the car PLUS the total payload it can handle. That is NOT what you should be measuring. You should use curb weight as your guide. A 2002 Odyssey weighs 4,250, a 2008 2WD RAV4 weighs just under 3,500 lbs. You didn't have a current Odyssey (which weighs what you state here at 4,430), you should be using the weight of the previous model (2002 falls into this category).
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 10, 2008 1:19 pm) Curb weight vs. actual weight loaded is a good question. Which should you use? I think most people drive around with people and object loaded in the vehicle.
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Replying to: bobber1 (Aug 10, 2008 2:36 pm) I'm guessing you had a similar amount of extra weight in both (similar numbers of people), although you COULD carry more in the Honda. Going back to my original point, you got similar relative mileage to EPA in the Odyssey as you do in your RAV (about 1 MPG less).
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