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Re: More Gas Mileage info [thegraduate] by easym1
Mar 09, 2006 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 16, 2006 11:31 am)

To all the people that posted here. I would like to thanks everyone for providing me very helpful information on MPG. I am currently in the market of buying a minivan to replace my Dodge caravan. Regarding MPG, I believe that thegraduate is absolutely right. I got a 2004 Nissan Murano SL AWD and the posted MPG is 20-22 MPG. Last summer. I averaged 18.3 between highway and city drive. This winter, my average drops down to 17.2 MPG. I can't see that anyone would be able to achieve the EPA rating in the real world. They do the test in a near perfect condition. Thanks again guys. I will now be checking infos on Toyota Sienna.
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'06 Oddyssey EX-L MPG by hondaturtle
Mar 13, 2006 (1:48 pm)
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I have 3000 miles total on my new '06 Ody EX-L. On a trip of 2200 miles, at 75 mph, moderately loaded (the van, that is), a/c on 25 % of time, strong cross-winds 25% of time, I averaged 24.7 mpg.
 
In city driving, I am getting 18 mpg.
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06 oddysey ex mpg by g8unw
Mar 15, 2006 (8:34 pm)
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Bought my oddyssey EX last January and got 1500 miles on it now. Been city driving most of the time and I've been averaging 16.5 mpg. Considering the size of this van, I think this mileage is good enough.
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EX-L Mileage dissappointment by 4ahlens
Mar 16, 2006 (3:39 pm)
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We have a Honda Oddyssey Sat.-Linked Navi & Rear Ent. Sys. and I absolutely love everything except one MAJOR THING. MPG... we were told EPA 20/28, we are getting 15.5 on average mainly city driving. We purchase ours in Oct 05 and decided on Honda over Toyota some because of the EPA, boy are we dissappointed. But there isn't any other complaint except that. We now have over 5000 miles on it, and haven't gotten any better mileage when using upgraded gas. So I hope that after the 1700 mile break-in period it will show some better mileage. I don't use the A/C, I go easy on ecceleration and am pretty conservative, so if you are worried about gas mileage beware, but if you want an Exceptional vehicle despite that fact, the Honda Oddyssey is the way to go hands down, feels like a sports car when you drive it. But Consumer reports Actual mileage did rate it one of the lowest for minivans, ONLY FOR MPG, so you take the good with the bad with any vehicle I guess.
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Re: EX-L Mileage dissappointment [4ahlens] by user777
Mar 16, 2006 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: 4ahlens (Mar 16, 2006 3:39 pm)

if you only have 500mi on it (you can't have over 5000 and not past the 1700mi break in period ) then you should expect to see some improvement. your reporting mainly city driving...city like highway driving means different things to different people.
 
make sure your tires are inflated properly. fill 'er up and take it on a good 300mi highway drive or more at 65. record your mileage. you're gonna do much better than 15.5MPG. then in another 3000mi, do the same thing. i bet your mileage will have improved.
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Re: EX-L Mileage dissappointment [user777] by jnt
Mar 18, 2006 (3:45 am)
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Replying to: user777 (Mar 16, 2006 4:40 pm)

I concur with your statement of city mileage: many different conditions. One normally gets different gas mileages for different distances and traffic conditions and average speeds. We normally get ~14MPG for trip that is 2-3 mile (engine not even warmed up yet). When it is longer, we can get 15MPG.
 
On HWY driving, there are also many factors: load (how many people and luggage bags), speed (50-65MPH is best for gas mileage) and weather condition (Winter takes 1-2 MPG hit for cold area, tire pressure or thermal dynamic of engine?). The best we got from our Odys EX-L is 24.5MPG on 65MPH speed with full load in the summer. That is very good considering the size, power,... This winter, we barely get 22MPG. We have this vehicle for more than a year now. Of course, our driving habits do not change seasonally
 
Anyway, we got similar gas mileage from GM lighter and less powerful minivan. So no complaint. Note that others who own small SUVs (Santa Fe, Equinox, ...) do not have better gas mileage than my Honda van.
 
jt
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Re: 2006 Odyssey EX-L (RES, NAV) MPG Dissapointment [rathebedriving] by jnt
Mar 18, 2006 (4:29 am)
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Replying to: rathebedriving (Dec 21, 2005 8:55 am)

ratherbedriving,
 
I do agree that we should not trust EPA numbers. Honda probably is stretching their Odys gas mileage quite a bit here (similar to Horse Power overstating that they and Toyota engaged in recent history).
 
We currently have both Olds and Honda vans. Our Olds van is weighted ~4,000 lbs vs. ~4400 lbs for the Honda van. So unless you have the AWD version of Olds van, I do not think any normal Olds van is heavier than Honda van. BTW, the reason older generation of GM van was so tinny (and full of rattles), narrow (~5" narrower than Honda, Dodge, Ford,...) and light because they cut corner in structure enforcement to make their vehicle light weight for both US and European markets. And we are paying for all of those compromises here in the US for the last 10 years since GM Europe dropped their vehicles after two years in production. The current redesigned GM vans are just a warm-over revision of the old generation with some exceptions (uglier SUV nose styling, beefier structure enforcement for Frontal offset crash, better interior,...)
 
Back to the main Gas mileage issue: we got about 13-15 MPG for both vehicles driving around town (less than 8 mile trip). The Olds may have a slight edge (0.5 MPG may be). But on HWY, with full loads, we normally get 21-23MPG on the Olds vs. 22-24.5MPG on the Honda. So we observed a 1-1.5 MPG advantage of the Honda. I attribute that to their VCM (or cylinder cut off) and 5 speed AT. In addition, the Honda engine still have a lot more reserve if demanded. Everytime I drive this Honda, I just love it: great acceeleration, excellent handling, good brake, great ride (one of two in the market with true rear independent suspension (new Kia Sodena has one now) . It would be a perfect van for us if they fix the loud "humming" noise at 2200-2400RPM (quite a few complaints, not all vehicles have it).
 
BTW, People who owns lighter and smaller SUVs report 13-15MPG around town and low 20's MPG on HWY.
 
jt
#48 of 491
Re: Ratherbedriving, a few notes by thegraduate
Mar 18, 2006 (9:35 pm)
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Replying to: jnt (Mar 18, 2006 4:29 am)

I do agree that we should not trust EPA numbers. Honda probably is stretching their Odys gas mileage quite a bit here (similar to Horse Power overstating that they and Toyota engaged in recent history).
 
Actually, your friendly Honda and Toyota dealers are the first in the auto industry to follow new SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) testing procedures for horsepower. They (SAE) have stricter regulations for testing, taking account driveline losses such as A/C and Power Steering.
 
Companies such as Nissan, on the other hand, have NOT retested their vehicles on the new standard, meaning that their numbers are STILL remaining overstated.
 
Honda and Toyota are the first two companies to retest all of their vehicles to comply with new standards.
 
* Note, carmakers aren't required to test under the new procedures until a new engine (or engine change) debuts. It is strictly optional until then; Honda and Toyota just decided to be completely honest with the public rather than allow the public to be in the dark about the new testing procedures.
 
Also, you say Honda is stretching their mileage...
 
Again, this isn't Honda's doing; this is the Environmental Protection Agency's estimate based on their tests. Also, keep in mind when VCM is at its best: under light load and highway driving. Low highway speeds (under 60 MPH, which is how CURRENT EPA HWY testing operates) do wonders for VCM equipped cars because at that speed, 3-cylinders is much more viable than at 75MPH (where many of us drive), and VCM stay active much longer. New EPA testing procedures are due out soon (FINALLY, thank goodness), and should deliver more realistic numbers on the window sticker.
 
I say this just to be informative, in case you (and other readers) didn't know about the new HP testing procedures.
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Re: EX-L Mileage dissappointment [jnt] by user777
Mar 19, 2006 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: jnt (Mar 18, 2006 3:45 am)

how do you compute the ~14MPG for the trip that is 2-3miles? you take about 25-50 of these little short trips and fill up again, or do you rely on an onboard computer (I have the LX - it's the low-tech way for me). I would never ever in any vehicle use the onboard computer to calculate DTE (Distance to Empty) or MPG. If the vehicles don't use an actual flow-meter, then they are computing the consumption (i imagine) by using the duty cycle information being commanded to the injectors, the pressure at the supply, and the time the vehicle is running. Even with a pretty decent estimate (because they know the nozzle passage size, they can estimate fuel consumption this way), it is still an estimate, which in my opinion will be less accurate than the tried and true method of dividing gallons pumped into miles driven.
 
i'm just curious how you're comming to this figure.
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Re: Honda Odyssey Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [boots65] by iluvuall
Mar 19, 2006 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: boots65 (Dec 14, 2005 9:55 am)

Boots65 & Stevevr4,
I have duplicated your problems too. I have not taken the car to the dealership yet because the shop I take the car too is very reliable. He has checked all the service bulletins and nothing whatsoever on poor mileage. I noticed that for the first year or so I had great mileage about 23-26 mpg mixed driving. Almost 28-30 on hwy. After I took my car in for some brake work to the dealer, I noticed that the mileage has slowly been degrading. The brake issues has been resolved, but in the back of my mind I keep thinking that something else may have happened, but I don't know what and neither does my car tech. The service shop reports that there is no computer codes, he has changed the filters w/o any improvement. I noticed around that time that the tire pressure was universally about 4PSI to low, I fixed that, the mileage appeared to improve but then I think it was purely wishful thinking. The main reason is that we take an annual trip over the summer to the same destination. In the first summer we made the trip we travelled almost 500 miles before we refueled this time around we barely made it past 400, and the low fuel lite was on for the last 30-40 miles. I am extremely disappointed with the mileage. These days I am lucky if I get 12-15 mixed driving. And with the price of fuel this is getting old...although I must say I love driving this van, its got plenty of power, handles well for a minivan and is joy to drive distances.

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