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Re: What are the Best non-Japanese Used Cars? [lhy] by tidester HOST
Apr 03, 2009 (8:31 pm)
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Replying to: lhy (Apr 03, 2009 6:09 pm)

it seems everybody wants one
 
You may find that to be true of other makes and models as well.
 
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Re: What are the Best non-Japanese Used Cars? [lhy] by lilengineerboy
Apr 04, 2009 (4:38 am)
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I'm looking for a sedan for around $4000. I just want something reliable that won't break down and that I can put some mileage on.
 
How big of a sedan are you looking for? A smaller commuter or a large vehicle? Your examples, the Accord and Corolla, straddle 2 or 3 size categories depending on years.
 
A Ford Focus would probably be the best bet in a compact sedan. There is also the Chevrolet Cobalt (I don't like the feel of it) and the Dodge Neon (which they have been making for so long the bugs have been worked out mostly). If your budget is tight, the Saturn S-series motors seem to offer a great deal of longevity.
 
If you are going up a size category, I would look at the 2001-2007 Ford Taurus (again, they were making these for so long, the bugs are gone). If you get the 24 valve engine, they are actually pretty peppy. The Buick Century (same making it forever clause) and the Chevrolet Malibu and Pontiac G6 are also in the category. Again the Saturn LS series is a midsize entry.
 
If you want something big, you can go RWD and get a Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis/Town Car, or go FWD and get a Buick LeSabre, Park Ave, or Chevrolet Impala.
 
Thats about all I can think of off the top of my head at 8 in the morning.
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Re: What are the Best non-Japanese Used Cars? [lhy] by kyfdx HOST
Apr 04, 2009 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: lhy (Apr 03, 2009 6:09 pm)

I don't think you necessarily have to go non-Japanese (though, that isn't a bad idea). Just stay away from Honda or Toyota...
 
Mazdas and Nissans...
 
Mazda 6
Mazda 3
Nissan Altima
Nissan Sentra
Mazda Protege
 
These all drop into the $4K range more quickly than the Toy/Honda twins...
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Re: What are the Best non-Japanese Used Cars? [kyfdx] by lilengineerboy
Apr 04, 2009 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Apr 04, 2009 6:52 am)

Or Mitsubishi (J) or Hyundai (K)...
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Re: What are the Best non-Japanese Used Cars? [lilengineerboy] by lhy
Apr 04, 2009 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Apr 04, 2009 4:38 am)

I am looking for a smaller 4-door commuter sedan.
 
I have heard that Dodge Neons have a reputation for mechanical problems, particulary the 1990s model. Is this true?
 
In terms of the larger sedans, are cars with V6 (or V8) engines worse in terms of gas mileage? And are V6 engine cars more expensive to service and repair than 4-cylinders?
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Re: What are the Best non-Japanese Used Cars? [kyfdx] by lhy
Apr 04, 2009 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Apr 04, 2009 6:52 am)

What do you think of the 1995 Infiniti G20 Basic sedan with a 4-speed automatic transmission?
  
Are the maintenance and repair costs on this car expensive?
  
Does the autonomatic transmission on this model have problems--as opposed to the stick shift?
  
And what are the insurance costs on the car like?
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Re: What are the Best non-Japanese Used Cars? [lhy] by dtownfb
Apr 04, 2009 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: lhy (Apr 03, 2009 6:09 pm)

Since your target price is $4000, you are looking at a 8-10 year old car.
 
I would recommend midsize GM car from the late 90's early 2000's. Parts are plentiful for these cars and any mechanic can repair them.
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Re: What are the Best non-Japanese Used Cars? [lhy] by steine13
Apr 05, 2009 (3:44 am)
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Replying to: lhy (Apr 04, 2009 5:35 pm)

What do you think of the 1995 Infiniti G20 Basic sedan with a 4-speed automatic transmission?
 
Not much. Too old.
 
If you can raise your price from $4 to $6, you can easily buy twice as much car for it. LOTS of people want cheap cars; they often wind up paying extra for it.
 
Ford Taurus is a good bet, too. an '06 with 40k should be in the low sixes... that's a lot of car.
 
A little over $10 is an absolute sweet spot. TONS of one- and two-year-old cars available for that. If you're doing payments, that's the way to go.
 
-Mathias
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Re: What are the Best non-Japanese Used Cars? [lhy] by lilengineerboy
Apr 05, 2009 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: lhy (Apr 04, 2009 5:32 pm)

I have heard that Dodge Neons have a reputation for mechanical problems, particulary the 1990s model. Is this true?
 
Head gaskets, wheel bearings, and automatic transmissions were trouble spots on earlier cars, however you should be able to get something newer than that with your budget. I would still be more likely to target a Ford Focus, and I would try to limit vehicles to 8 years old and newer and In terms of the larger sedans, are cars with V6 (or V8) engines worse in terms of gas mileage? And are V6 engine cars more expensive to service and repair than 4-cylinders?
 
Remarkably not as much as one would think. The General Motor 3.8 liter pushrod V6 (very old technology, relatively high displacement - big - motor) can get in the 30s on the highway. I am not a big fan of the 2.8 or 3.1 liter GM engines. The much more modern 3.5 and 3.6 liter engines from GM are out of your price range.
A low-tech, 30 year old design 3.8 liter motor will likely be cheaper to repair than a "high-tech" 4 cylinder of the time.
 
A timing belt change for an Accord from that time is $600-700 and that is routine maintenance, not a repair. The GM motors have a chain.

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