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Re: Removing seats [suydam] by booyahcramer
Jan 13, 2007 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: suydam (Jan 13, 2007 6:01 am)

Our Odyssey has seats that store into the floor, but the area you want to store into the floor has to be clear of everything before you want to stow them. Not always an easy situation especially with the kids stuff in there.
 
I highly recommend Weathertech heavy duty floor liners for the floor behind the third row. Protects the carpet from wet, dirt, sand, dogs paws etc.
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Re: Removing seats [suydam] by jlawrence01
Jan 13, 2007 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: suydam (Jan 13, 2007 6:01 am)

A lot of it depends on the vehicle. On the newer Chryslers that have the "stow and go" technology, it takes literally seconds.
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Saab 9-3s by lilengineerboy
Jan 15, 2007 (9:07 am)
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So I went looking at a 9-3 because my uncle told me to. I test drove a new one, 2.0t (Linear, I believe) and it was in the mid-20s for an 07 (6spd, leather, no extras).
They had a '04 on the lot w/45k for $15 (170hp 2.0t, leather, moon, etc). That struck me as a lot of depreciation, but I guess 3 model years old might be about right. I didn't get to drive the used one yet, but it seems like they are at a much better price range for me.
Basically, I think my most realistic short list is the 9-3, Impreza WRX and a Mazda6 (12-15k, less than 5 years old, under 50k miles, stick).
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Re: Saab 9-3s [lilengineerboy] by jlawrence01
Jan 15, 2007 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jan 15, 2007 9:07 am)

They had a '04 on the lot w/45k for $15 (170hp 2.0t, leather, moon, etc). That struck me as a lot of depreciation, but I guess 3 model years old might be about right. I didn't get to drive the used one yet, but it seems like they are at a much better price range for me.
 
I just sent a Saab 9-3 equipped with the moonroof and the 18" chrome wheels to the auction w/ 55k ... I am hoping to get $9.5k for the vehicle but I am not optimistic about that.
 
I would RUN away from the Saab as quickly as I could. He had the vehicle in the shop at least 25 times in 3 1/2 years on electronics, the moonroof ... never a dull moment with THAT beast. The annual maintenance alone is expensive.
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Re: Saab 9-3s [lilengineerboy] by british_rover
Jan 15, 2007 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jan 15, 2007 9:07 am)

Two of my co-workers are former/current SAAB salesman and one of our techs is a former SAAB salesman.
 
All of them say stay away from the 9-3. The later ones might e better then the older ones but in general they advise against a 9-3. If you want a SAAB you would be better off spending a bit more money on a 9-5.
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Re: Saab 9-3s [british_rover] by jlawrence01
Jan 15, 2007 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jan 15, 2007 10:25 am)

On the day that the SAAB driver was to turn in his old vehicle for a new Chrysler Aspen, he called me. The Saab 9-3 would not start and was stuck in his garage ... and he had a flight to catch.
 
So we conference called the dealership. The driver and the technician are now best buddies - heck, they ought to be. I mean when the technician asks the driver how he liked his Christmas card ...
 
Great dealership, great service, miserable car. Sent it to Manheim rather than sell it to an employee.
 
Hopefully, never again.
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Re: Saab 9-3s [jlawrence01] by lilengineerboy
Jan 15, 2007 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Jan 15, 2007 12:42 pm)

I am willing to accept some increased maintenance as a trade of for a better driving experience, but that sounds rediculous. I think I just need to get the WRX and be done with it.
Now if I can just find one that is in the price range and not trashed by modifications.
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... by plekto
Jan 16, 2007 (10:29 am)
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Mind you, the 9-5 is reliable enough by comparison. It's the last of the all Swedish designed and built Saabs, and it shows.
 
The XRX is a god car, too, though it's a very plain and agressive ride(though a lot of people want that as opposed to the near total isolation you get in something like a civic)
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Re: Saab 9-3s [lilengineerboy] by erics6
Jan 16, 2007 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jan 15, 2007 7:37 pm)

If you could find one, the Saab 9-2 aero is nice. Subaru WRX with better Saab styling. The 06 would have the 2.5 turbo with less turbo lag. Problem is finding one of the few they actually sold.
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Re: Saab 9-3s [erics6] by lilengineerboy
Jan 16, 2007 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: erics6 (Jan 16, 2007 2:51 pm)

Yeah my only thing is I like the sedan better than the wagon, although I can't really say either one is stylish. I think the WRX (especially the bug eye ones) have a face only its mother could love, but its so homely its likeable.

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