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Re: Which one? [qbrozen] by alltogetherook
Jan 09, 2007 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 05, 2007 7:22 am)

My daughter is almost three and still rides rear-facing. Her legs are bent or she hangs them over the sides of the carseat. She is VERY tall for her age but skinny and hasn't reached the 33lb. rear-facing weight limit on her carseat yet. Most children prefer to sit rear-facing because it gives them someplace to put their feet. Imagine sitting on a bar stool without a footrest-your legs start to hurt quickly and will loose circulation. Same thing happens when kids face forward. There have been NO cases of broken legs in an accident when rear-facing (bent legs don't break). But, there have been plenty of spinal injuries forward-facing. Keep them rear-facing as long as the carseat will allow.
Plus, it's the law to keep them RF at least until they are 1-year AND 20lbs.
 
Thank you, I will get off my soapbox now.
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Just test drove myself a Buick... by phinneas519
Jan 09, 2007 (12:28 pm)
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First, the facts:
 
2003 Buick Park Ave Ultra (white)
77,000 miles, good-excellent condition
* Premium sound, 12 disc cd changer, moon roof, leather, seat heaters and so on.
Listed Price: $15,879
 
I test drove this and I have to say it is nice! Somewhat floaty ride and no steering feel, but that's to be expected from an "old person car." The leather bench was very comfortable and I quickly got the impression I could drive this thing for hours without aches and pains. My only problem would be falling asleep at the wheel due to the comfort and ease of driving. Though I don't quite have both feet in the market yet (I told the salesman) I said I was interested. After standing firm that my buying range was closer to $12,000, he said he'd try to help them meet that number since it was on the lot for 120 days. After a stop in the manager's office, he came back with the figure of $12,700 +TTL. Not too bad, right? At least according to my blue bookings it isn't. Any opinions on all of this?
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Re: Just test drove myself a Buick... [phinneas519] by british_rover
Jan 09, 2007 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: phinneas519 (Jan 09, 2007 12:28 pm)

My galves book opens up around 11,000 for that same car with 50,000 miles on it.
 
If they have had that car on the lot for 120 days, most dealers turn their used cars over every 60 days or sometimes 90 days, then I think they can get down under 12,700. what part of the country are you in?
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Re: Buicks [plekto] by meateater
Jan 09, 2007 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 09, 2007 9:59 am)

That's a lot of miles on an 06 car. Probably an abused rental.
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Re: Just test drove myself a Buick... [british_rover] by phinneas519
Jan 09, 2007 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jan 09, 2007 12:58 pm)

I'm in central Wisconsin. Stevens Point (54481) to be specific. I've heard about the galves book here and there - how does it differ from the NADA guide, KBB and even the Edmunds guide?
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Re: Just test drove myself a Buick... [phinneas519] by british_rover
Jan 09, 2007 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: phinneas519 (Jan 09, 2007 1:34 pm)

It is a wholesale/auction price guide but is typicaly only relevant to the northeast. That price still sounds high though but ehh I don't know that market so not sure how high.
 
Try the Real World Tradein Forum Volvomax probably has a better idea what they potentialy have into that car.
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Re: Buicks [meateater] by lilengineerboy
Jan 09, 2007 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: meateater (Jan 09, 2007 1:13 pm)

That's a lot of miles on an 06 car. Probably an abused rental.
 
There's no way thats a rental with 77k. Rental car companies dump their cars with less than 20k. They don't want to deal with an out of warranty car and they know the next buyer will want some warranty with their purchase.
That might have been a fleet car, but most likely, it was sold to some traveling salesman or something. The outside rep for Cannondale used to go through a VW every year driving to all the bike shops.
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Re: Buicks [lilengineerboy] by british_rover
Jan 09, 2007 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jan 09, 2007 2:14 pm)

He meant this car...
 
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=212411646
 
But that is not a rental either because it has too many miles as well.
 
I can't find my unlimited Carfax password right now but I am pretty sure it is not a rental.
 
And even if it is what is wrong with rentals? In my experience they get serviced better then private owner cars.
 
Also you need to see when it was sold to figure out how many miles are too many miles. That could have been sold mid 2005 as a 2006 MY car so it would really only have about 15,000 miles a year.
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Re: Used Buick: What's the Best Value? [zodiac2004] by cccompson
Jan 09, 2007 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: zodiac2004 (Jan 09, 2007 7:22 am)

Well, I've had both motors (in Oldsmobiles and Pontiacs). The SC seems to get slightly better mileage on the highway but requires premium fuel and the unit itself can fail with miles (figure $500 for a rebuilt unit if you can do the labor yourself). To me, it's a toss-up and I wouldn't accept (or reject) a particular car based on which motor it has.
 
HUD was, I belive, an option (maybe standard on the Ultra). I personally liked it on an SSEI Bonneville I once had. You can turn it off when desired. If it fails, there's no requirement that it be repaired.
 
Unless you want a floaty ride, find one with the Grand Touring suspension option. I believe they are identifiable by a plaque on the dash to the left of the steering wheel.
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Re: Which one? [alltogetherook] by dtownfb
Jan 10, 2007 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: alltogetherook (Jan 09, 2007 11:00 am)

if your daughter is over the height limit to qualify for a front facing car seat, please move her to one. While she may suffer a broken leg in a horrific accident, at least she will be able to see where you are driving and possibly talk to you. I have the best conversations with my kids pointing out different sites for them to see while we driving. Plus you can better watch her in the rear view mirror. And I guarantee she will enjoy riding in the car even more.

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