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Replying to: lightwave25 (Jan 05, 2007 8:09 am) 
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Replying to: lightwave25 (Jan 08, 2007 5:38 pm) It also should be OK with gas and insurance. |
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The best one is a used 2006 Lucerne CXS. You can get one now for a bit over 20K and its worth every penny. Handles like.. well, not like a Buick. Very much like an older 1990s S-Class. Or if you have to go used, a Park Ave, since the LeSabre is essentially unobtainium with a bench seat.
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Replying to: cccompson (Jan 08, 2007 4:55 pm) Any opinions about the supercharged engine on the ultras. Is is better to stick with the base engine in terms of reliability/maintenance costs. Didn't these cars come with the heads-up display. Any opinions about those?
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Replying to: zodiac2004 (Jan 09, 2007 7:22 am) While not every plastic intake manifold failed lots of them did so it is something to watch out for. |
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Replying to: british_rover (Jan 09, 2007 7:45 am) |
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Replying to: british_rover (Jan 09, 2007 7:45 am) A few more questions for you if you don't mind. Does the SC engine require premium gas. How would you rate the overall reliability/repair costs of this model - let's stick with the SC Do you think the interior trim would be in good shape for a 10 year old car - in terms of not coming apart. This is one car I have never driven - nor sat in. So any impressions are appreciated.
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Replying to: zodiac2004 (Jan 09, 2007 8:18 am) The 3800 engine is an outstanding motor even with the SC on top a couple of hundred thousand miles with appropriate maintance should be no issue. I would be a little hessitant about the HUD display though as I have heard of that having problems. It is a typical 1990's GM car so the drivetrain is great, the electrics are average and the paint/interior finish is poor. If the interior was well taken care of and stored mostly inside it might be ok. Otherwise it will likely be in poor shape. The paint will also most likely be faded and comming off unless it was stored in doors and waxed constantly.
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 08, 2007 9:51 pm) I don't understand this. Almost all the leSabres have bench seats. A few had a console in the middle designed for business papers, worktop, technology holder, etc. But 99% of the leSabres which were not made after 2005, I believe, have bench seats. Some comfortable cloth, some comfortable leather. The Park Avenue seats tend to be covered with a topping to make it slightly plusher in feel. But the Park Ave is 500 pounds heavier. The UIM (upper intake manifold) once replaced rarely gives problems. In 99 they changed that design from the factory. Few failures in 2000 and later. Some people blame DexCool for failures of gaskets around edges leaking; some failed with an EGR plastic pipe setup through the middle. 1999s had a smaller diameter metal pipe sticking up into the UIM manifold's plastic out later separated by a small air space. DexCool does fine if changed every 24000 or two years just like regular antifreeze. The UIM is a $150 item with $120 labor at typical practiced garage. Some with medium mechanical skills replace their own (and do the lower seals as well). Watching antifreeze level in recovery tank for slow drop without a temperature explanation from season to season being reason to have a knowledgeable garage check. The intake manifold problem is overemphasized--unlike Toyota's sludge or their and Honda's transmission failures/problems. I would avoid the supercharger myself because I don't want the extra maintenance for it, like frequent oil changes and possible failures and replacement. I believe the Lucerne's 3800 has a completely different, metal UIM. |
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Replying to: british_rover (Jan 09, 2007 8:25 am) |
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